oil line confirmation

[fritos]

Hello all,
Forgive me if this is already covered and if it is please direct me to the correct thread.

I wanted to make an appointment to get the engine oil line replaced on my 08. When I called to make the appointment they told me they performed the recall work at the same time my wife took the car in for the floor mat and pedal recalls.


I don't remember this being mentioned to me at the time and I want to find out how I can confirm the work was done and done correctly. Are there pictures on the web anywhere showing the faulty hose then the corrected hose/line?

Thanks
Steve

[boosted-fc3s]

It looks about the same, only way I could tell was it was newer looking rubber.

[CISA93]

Originally Posted by fritos

Hello all,
Forgive me if this is already covered and if it is please direct me to the correct thread.

I wanted to make an appointment to get the engine oil line replaced on my 08. When I called to make the appointment they told me they performed the recall work at the same time my wife took the car in for the floor mat and pedal recalls.


I don't remember this being mentioned to me at the time and I want to find out how I can confirm the work was done and done correctly. Are there pictures on the web anywhere showing the faulty hose then the corrected hose/line?

Thanks
Steve

THere is a positing on this site called VVTi oil line and there is one on Google that someone put out that's over 30 pages long. There are links on there. I saw one on the RAV4 and the line is identical. Also someone in Australia posted it on You Tube. One of those links (Sorry, I just throw mine in the garbage two days ago) shows almost step by step.

Toyota p/n 15772-31030, Pipe, Oil No. 2; 90430-16012, crush washer 90430-16016 and 16017, crush washer (told this part number supercedes the part ending in 16012.

I was told that any Avalon built after 04/2008 has the all metal oil line. Look at your label on the driver door sill. Should show you the DOM. However, here are the part numbers to get that hose. There is also a tine metal screen encased in plastic that goes on the top of that oil line (inside the banjo nut). I just replaced mine, checked the screen, cleaned it and reinstalled it.

[Mike Murrell]

I do not recall all of the details, but B4 I had my wife's '06 Avalon redone - I studied the oil line. Looked at it afterwards as well. There's a difference. I recall seeing more metal in the replacement part.

Part # on the warranty work invoice -> 04009-33131

I do not know if this # differs from the original.

Lots of yack on the problem in this thread:

http://sites.google.com/site/toyotav6oillinescandal/

and some tech yack at this one:

http://static.reuters.com/resources/...ta_oilhose.pdf

[fritos]

Thanks all. I took some pics of what I suspect is the hose in question. I'll post them when I get to my other computer. I bought this toyota after swearing off any more GM products as they are supposed to be rock solid. A rubber oil line sounds like a really really bad idea.

Steve

[CISA93]

Originally Posted by fritos

Thanks all. I took some pics of what I suspect is the hose in question. I'll post them when I get to my other computer. I bought this toyota after swearing off any more GM products as they are supposed to be rock solid. A rubber oil line sounds like a really really bad idea.

Steve

Bad design decision. Whether money or just complacency (since Toyota held an edge over GM). They've corrected the problem after 04/2008. I've serviced/worked at a import shop (some domestic models). There isn't an automaker out there that won't revise a part or a procedure after the prototype has been put into production. The point is getting these manufacturers to work with the customers.....that's what separates some from the others.

[grandpapa]

This vvti oil line has been an confusing issue around the forum. I think we all know the root cause is the bad oil rubber line. But the solution is such a mess. I read across RAV4, Camry, Highlander, Sienna.... pretty much all 3.5 engine V6 forums has talked about this many many times.

The 1st solution for some 3.5 was to replaced with another RUBBER oil line (under recall) and then in later time, somehow some folks has a ALL METAL oil line on their 3.5 (not under recall) and there is talk about that is the NEW part for the vvti recall.

Well, I have/had both 05, 06 limited and both recall were done. Guess what? It's the rubber oil line, NOT the full metal. Some other owners tried hard to push the issue and have dealer put a metal line. I guess that's why we don't really know which part is the correct part.

As far as it goes, I don't have any problem with the replaced rubber hose (hope to keep it that way). Just keep an eye on any oil leak once a while.

[Mike Murrell]

The Reuters URL I point to above discusses TSB "Phase 2".

Sounds to me like "Phase 1" may have been a new rubber line; "Phase 2" - the newer metal line.

Pure speculation on my part.

[CISA93]

Originally Posted by Mike Murrell

The Reuters URL I point to above discusses TSB "Phase 2".

Sounds to me like "Phase 1" may have been a new rubber line; "Phase 2" - the newer metal line.

Pure speculation on my part.

I've had the fortune or misfortune of having to deal with this problem. I can't recall how many times I've read about this VVTi oil line on several Toyota forums. Why did Toyota chose to install an all metal line on Bank #1 and the metal/rubber on Bank#2?

From a mechanical point of view and after speaking with several Toyota dealerships, parts and service advisors, this is a part they keep on stock because it's a problem that occurs from weekly to monthly basis. This part number has been revised 4 times as of last week (when I received my all metal Bank #2 line). I've been told by a Toyota wholesale parts dealer in AZ, that they will eventually revise this part number again, but waiting to exhaust all metal/rubber parts (it's actually a kit calling for replacing the camshaft cover, ect)

If your OKAY with this combination of metal/rubber combination locatedin an area that's not readily accessible, that's your choice. I know that 4 runners and Tundra that have an engine oil cooling system, use silicone-type hoses, but these hoses harden over time and don't burst as it's being reported by countless Toyota owners with 3.5 engines.

My hope is just to help those, as those that have helped me on this forum, to make an informed decision about this issue and NOT consider the Avalon or the 3.5 engine a complete loss. I've been very happy with my Avalon and this engine, afterall, it's man-made and it will eventually breakdown.

[grandpapa]

I don't know the Bank #1 and Bank #2 line. But I think the problem area is the line on the left if you stand in front of the car from the top part of the engine to the lower part.

Just found this a few minutes ago which show the parts?
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=647511

[CISA93]

Originally Posted by grandpapa

I don't know the Bank #1 and Bank #2 line. But I think the problem area is the line on the left if you stand in front of the car from the top part of the engine to the lower part.

Just found this a few minutes ago which show the parts?
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=647511

Since the Avalon is a FWD vehicle, Bank #1 is closest to the radiator, Bank #2 ofcourse, is towards the firewall.