11 Avalon Tire Rotation: X or II?

[DGNY]

My dealer says F-B and B-F only. Declined to put spare into rotation... 4 tires were rotated @ 5, 10, 15K. Don't see/feel any cupping yet, but would expect that next. Car was aligned around 5K, as was/is not 100% stable in direction, with slight wander. [no accidents/curb hits/pothole damage, etc.] Run 33-34 psi F&R, as rec by dealer [vs specs @ 32 psi]. Only 1-2 total people on board, mostly.

At just under 18K on factory Michelins, getting some tire 'yammer' around 45 mph.

Do you cross rotate? Actual experiences appreciated.

Thanks

[boosted-fc3s]

I just do front to back, since my spare isnt a matching tire. It was in the rotation when I had all oem tires. I kept the one with the most tread for the spare when I got new tires. Now I just do front to back.

[grandpapa]

now a day, more so they do F-B rotation and here are the reason (I think)
-most tires are directional so you can't really do a X rotation
-less work for them

My idle rotation method would be (for directional tires) swapping the tires directly out from the rim so both inner and outter thread get the same usage, lot of work... and don't think anyone actually do this

[boosted-fc3s]

Its awfully rare for oem tires to be directional. Thats more of a summer tire / sports car thing I would think.

[azgurney]

The dealer rotates all 5 of my tires but I have to ask for it. They never refused.

[fosman77]

I cross rotate every 5000 and have had no problems. just make sure u don't have directional tires, Have been doing do for many years.

[grandpapa]

not sure about OEM tires but all tires in my cars are directional.

[DGNY]

Thanks for the thoughts. These are OEM Michelins and look to be non-directional. I.e.: could be X rotated.

Anything else?

[boosted-fc3s]

All directional tires will have an arrow on them noting the required installation/travel direction. The oem michelins are unidirectional and can be X rotated without issue.

[DGNY]

Thanks for your answers. BTW, my dealer declined to rotate all 5.

Regards,

Dyson

[azgurney]

Originally Posted by DGNY

Thanks for your answers. BTW, my dealer declined to rotate all 5.

Regards,

Dyson

I just looked in my owners manual. The only method they show for tire rotation is the 5 tires method. I think your dealer is to lazy to open the trunk and take the spare out. It seems a waste to leave a brand new tire in the trunk dry rotting away. The 5 tire method can add 20% to your tire life by using all 5 tires.