And I as well. Heck, he may have just driven a Mercedes or something, which would have skewed his perception of the car.
He drove the XLE, and I'm not sure the other models will be any more comfortable. If Toyota is trying to make this work with a larger audience, then it may well be a bit more "Uncomfortable" so as to make it a bit more of a "Driving Car", and not should the 2 meet
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PS Oh yes, it will be VERY disappointing if it is noticeably different (less comfortable), as I drive long hours and comfort is VERY important to me, and my wife who's boney ass, it's event more important.
I hope your wife doesn't read this. I don't have any complaints on the comfort on any of my long trips. The most important thing for me is to wear the right shoes. If I don't, my right leg gets cramps and my right hips bothers me.The seats are comfortable on all fronts according to my mother and sister. They rode with me from Chicago to Florida and back to Chicago a few months ago.
I hope your wife doesn't read this. I don't have any complaints on the comfort on any of my long trips. The most important thing for me is to wear the right shoes. If I don't, my right leg gets cramps and my right hips bothers me.The seats are comfortable on all fronts according to my mother and sister. They rode with me from Chicago to Florida and back to Chicago a few months ago.
Oh she knows. Her discomfort is a source of discussion ever time we got any where.
My 2011 is pretty damn comfortable for the most part, but even my ass gets a bit sore after 300 miles or so.
The most comfortable car to date (35+ cars and counting), as my 1996 Park avenue with velour seats that were as comfortable as ANY chair I have ever sat in (including the ones in our living room). I could drive from here (Maine) to Florida straight drive stopping only for gas, and when I got to florida it was like I had just left Maine, a real treat driving that car. Why did I get rid of it you ask, well 337,000 mile plus, and I had been replacing just about everything including the Sub Frame, and it just became to unsafe to drive long distances any more, and the new Park Avenues at the time, didn't offer velour (or whatever they were) seats. I had 2 more Park Avenues, both with Leather seats, which were nice, just not as nice, but YES, Much better then the Avalons. Why hell one of the avalons seats were as big as both of the avalons together.
Toyota said the seats were one of the areas they worked on to lower the weight of the car … maybe they should have found something, I mean, you sit in the seats more then anything else while DRIVING the car
Oh she knows. Her discomfort is a source of discussion ever time we got any where.
My 2011 is pretty damn comfortable for the most part, but even my ass gets a bit sore after 300 miles or so.
The most comfortable car to date (35+ cars and counting), as my 1996 Park avenue with velour seats that were as comfortable as ANY chair I have ever sat in (including the ones in our living room). I could drive from here (Maine) to Florida straight drive stopping only for gas, and when I got to florida it was like I had just left Maine, a real treat driving that car. Why did I get rid of it you ask, well 337,000 mile plus, and I had been replacing just about everything including the Sub Frame, and it just became to unsafe to drive long distances any more, and the new Park Avenues at the time, didn't offer velour (or whatever they were) seats. I had 2 more Park Avenues, both with Leather seats, which were nice, just not as nice, but YES, Much better then the Avalons. Why hell one of the avalons seats were as big as both of the avalons together.
Toyota said the seats were one of the areas they worked on to lower the weight of the car … maybe they should have found something, I mean, you sit in the seats more then anything else while DRIVING the car
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It's hard to beat the comfort of some of the GM full size car seats. My neighbor has a 1992 Lesabre with velour seats that are really comfortable. I suppose the main weight of the seat would be the frame and the electric motors in the Toyota. They should make sure the seat is comfortable above all else. Like you said, it's where you have to sit when you're driving the car. They should require the seat designer to sit in it for hours on end to see how they feel about the comfort level before releasing it to the public. On the other hand I don't know if I want my seat to be as comfortable as furniture because it might cause me to get sleepy enough to doze off behind the wheel. You've had a whole bunch of cars in your time.
It's hard to beat the comfort of some of the GM full size car seats. My neighbor has a 1992 Lesabre with velour seats that are really comfortable. I suppose the main weight of the seat would be the frame and the electric motors in the Toyota. They should make sure the seat is comfortable above all else. Like you said, it's where you have to sit when you're driving the car. They should require the seat designer to sit in it for hours on end to see how they feel about the comfort level before releasing it to the public. On the other hand I don't know if I want my seat to be as comfortable as furniture because it might cause me to get sleepy enough to doze off behind the wheel. You've had a whole bunch of cars in your time.
You don't sleep if you eat enough Chips, Soda, cookies and such
Yeah, plenty of cars, and some were real nice highway cars. Seems since my first car, I've been a "Boat" kind of guy.
1966 Pontiac Catalina 4 door (Owned by the little old lady, I should have known then)
1968 Pontiac Catalina 2 door coupe (if those 2 can go together)
1966 Dodge Monaco
1965 Chevy Impala SS
1978 Monte Carlo
1972 Old Cutlass 2 Door
1967 Pontiac GTO
1973 Chevy Vega
1976 Honda Accord (New, it just rusted away )
1978 Vista Cruiser Wagon
1984 Ford Tempo (New, but had for 3 months, what a piece of shit)
1987 Toyota 4 Runner
1978 Toyota Tercel 3 door Hatchback
1978 Toyota Tercel Sedan
1976 Buick Park Avenue
1978 Buick Park Avenue
1978 Buick Park Avenue Ultra
2003 Toyota Camry (still own this one - 69,000 miles)
2008 Toyata Camry
2008 Toyota Avalon Touring Edition
2011 Toyota Avalon LTD
2013 Toyota Avalon LTD (Nautica Blue?)
And some others in the middle area that I didn't have long (oh can't remember what they were)
You don't sleep if you eat enough Chips, Soda, cookies and such
Yeah, plenty of cars, and some were real nice highway cars. Seems since my first car, I've been a "Boat" kind of guy.
1966 Pontiac Catalina 4 door (Owned by the little old lady, I should have known then)
1968 Pontiac Catalina 2 door coupe (if those 2 can go together)
1966 Dodge Monaco
1965 Chevy Impala SS
1978 Monte Carlo
1972 Old Cutlass 2 Door
1967 Pontiac GTO
1973 Chevy Vega
1976 Honda Accord (New, it just rusted away )
1978 Vista Cruiser Wagon
1984 Ford Tempo (New, but had for 3 months, what a piece of shit)
1987 Toyota 4 Runner
1978 Toyota Tercel 3 door Hatchback
1978 Toyota Tercel Sedan
1976 Buick Park Avenue
1978 Buick Park Avenue
1978 Buick Park Avenue Ultra
2003 Toyota Camry (still own this one - 69,000 miles)
2008 Toyata Camry
2008 Toyota Avalon Touring Edition
2011 Toyota Avalon LTD
2013 Toyota Avalon LTD (Nautica Blue?)
And some others in the middle area that I didn't have long (oh can't remember what they were)
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I've had 10 cars in my life. I sleep at rest areas if I feel the need. I don't like to eat or drink much on long trips.
75 Buick Century Special
84 Mazda 626 Hatchback
89 Nissan Maxima SE
87 Honda Civic
92 Nissan Maxima SE
89 Nissan pickup
95 Nissan pickup King Cab
02 Nissan Maxima SE
06 Nissan Frontier LE King Cab
11 Toyota Avalon LTD
No plans to buy anything else for a while. Also had a 1982 Honda CB750 Custom motorcycle I bought in early 1983 brand new.
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I too had a few motorcycles. I worked in that industry for 10+ years. How could I not have at least one M/C
I haven't had one since my head on collision, which I escape with very small injuries (thank God, and my Full Leathers, Full Coverage Helmet, Boots and gloves.
Helmet split into 2 pieces, and leathers got roughed up, but very lucky From the point of impact to where I ended up (in the middle of a 4 lane highway intersection, was some 90-120 feet! Hell of a ride, just don't remember much.
My favorite bike was my CB 400F. I purchased it used, tore it down COMPLETELY - every last nut and bolt, laid out on the cellar floor. I reground the welds, rebuild the engine, put on a very cool Kaz Yosimuri hand build exhaust and had a blast with that bike. I sold it when we got married.
The bike I totaled was one I was using from work. I was headed back to work when the accident happened. Heck, the worst thing that happened at the time, was my sister worked the ER at the hospital they took me to - she didn't like seeing me come in, oh, and having her having to call my wife.
A little scraped up, and minor surgery on my right knee and I was as good as new.
They said, the full suit, helmet and likely several years of Karate (learned how to fall) helped me to not get hurt worst.
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I am 33 now but was 29 when I bought the 08 new. I got the avalon because it was the best bang for the buck luxury car that I didn't hit my knees on the dash everytime I got in the car and still had room in the backseat with the seats fully back where i sit. I am only 6' but had issues with other cars I tested like ES350, accord, and maxima. I liked the way it drives, the quietness, and the MPG compared to the others I looked at. Also I am one of the few around here my age but I don't care as my avalon is far from stock looking with the 20s, tinted tails, 1 off grill, shaved XLS and toyota badges on back and 20% tint back and sides/5% eyebrow, 5-smd led bulbs for license plate and all interior. Wife and I have drove mine all over the country, coast to coast; last June I drove to Florida for the month and back, and a week later went to Vegas and Cali for a week. Wife and I did the same track to Vegas and Cali back in 2009. Brakes warped on me within the first 20k, but I didn't bother with the factory junk and replaced them with drilled and slotted kit from breakmotive off e-bay, best 200 I spent, didn't need rear rotors or pads front and rear, but for the price and the fact that my 20s are so open, couldn't see riding mismatched and they came with ceramic pads(don't know what stock ones are made of.)
It seems that the average (from the above posts, less Tom in Tacoma) is 46 years old. For those of you who have purchased multiple cars at different ages, I averaged it out.
It seems that the average (from the above posts, less Tom in Tacoma) is 46 years old. For those of you who have purchased multiple cars at different ages, I averaged it out.
It looks like Toyota is off by over 20 years.
Of course I also noticed, many are folks who purchased the Avalon as a used car, and toyota doesn't track that info.
Toyota is in the business of selling cars. They don't care if almost everyone who buys an Avalon is over 50 so long as they meet their sales goals. The fastest growing segment of the USA population is the "baby boomer" group
It's hard to beat the comfort of some of the GM full size car seats. My neighbor has a 1992 Lesabre with velour seats that are really comfortable. I suppose the main weight of the seat would be the frame and the electric motors in the Toyota. They should make sure the seat is comfortable above all else. Like you said, it's where you have to sit when you're driving the car. They should require the seat designer to sit in it for hours on end to see how they feel about the comfort level before releasing it to the public. On the other hand I don't know if I want my seat to be as comfortable as furniture because it might cause me to get sleepy enough to doze off behind the wheel. You've had a whole bunch of cars in your time.
I tool my 2008 4Runner to an auto upholstery shop and had them add padding to the front seats. The guy charged me $100 per seat and added about 50% more. Major difference in long haul comfort. I'll take my Avalon there in a few months and get the seats done as well. I have driven the Avalon to Florida from Ohio twice in the past 6 months and it could use a bit of extra padding. I bought my 2012 Avalon last year when I was 58.
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I don't have any complaints on the comfort on any of my long trips. The most important thing for me is to wear the right shoes. If I don't, my right leg gets cramps and my right hips bothers me.The seats are comfortable on all fronts according to my mother and sister. They rode with me from Chicago to Florida and back to Chicago a few months ago.
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