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Old 04-25-2005, 02:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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smart key and doors unlocking

Question for '05 limited owners.

With the smart key, it implies that when the driver door is opened, the other doors stay locked. If any of the other 3 doors are opened first, all doors are unlocked.
Mine, if the driver door is opened, all the other doors are also unlocked.
I assume that the driver door function is a safety measure for women who go to the car in a parking lot and for all of the doors to NOT be unlocked as she gets in the car.
Am I wrong in my assumption?
I really see no difference in the default mode and the alternate mode.
Anyone else have it the way mine is?
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Old 04-25-2005, 08:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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My wife and I are still trying to figure out how this works. When I open the drivers door, only the drivers door opens. I had my wife try to open the front passenger door first and none of the doors opened, even hers. However today , when I opened the passenger door behind the drivers side, all the doors opened. Maybe the wife screwed up something. As with many of the toys with my limited, I will have to keep playing and figure out how this actually works.
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Old 04-26-2005, 06:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sounds as if yours works the way I thought it should. My book implies that if you open the drivers door, the others do not unlock at that time. Mine do. Then it says that if any door other than the drivers door is opened, they all unlock. That is what doesn't make sense to me.
Mine, if I open the drivers door, they are all unlocked. Also, if I open other than the drivers door, they all unlock. I can't understand what they imply to be different.
I've tried both 'modes' of the smart key and they operate the same.
I'm going tomorrow to pick up my registration (finally) and plan to ask them to explain to me what they mean in the book.
If not a good answer, I plan to write Toyota of America to get an explaination of what is in the book.
It is probably something that will make me feel like an idiot once it's explained
I take it that you to have found some rather wierd translations in the book?.
I hope to get my ash tray and mud flaps tomorrow as well.
Did you get mud flaps? If so, do you like them? I've had them on all of my cars since I live at the end of a dirt road and they have kept most of the dust and mud off the side of the cars, hope these do the same. They tell me they are color coded to the cars color.
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Old 04-26-2005, 10:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I did not get the mud flaps on mine. It doesn't rain much here in PHX.
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Old 04-28-2005, 08:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Smart Key system. If you turn to page (35) in the owners manual there are two modes. 1 Drivers door only unlock or 2 all doors unlock. BY pressing the lock switch and at the same time press either the trunk opener or alarm switch for 5 seconds, you will toggle between modes

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Old 04-28-2005, 09:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
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You can have your doors lock one of two ways. You can Have the doors lock when you take the Avalon 2005 out of park, or you can have the doors lock when your speed reaches 12MPR
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Old 04-29-2005, 10:10 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Az,

Thanks for the reply.
I had read that in the book.
I've set it to lock when she takes it out of park, and that works just the way they say. I also showed her the locking rocker on the left arm rest.
But what we are having doubts about is the unlocking feature. I've toggled between the two modes but I really don't see any difference between them.
If she opens her door, her door unlocks but so do all of the others. If she opens other than her door, they all unlock. It is the same which ever mode we set.
She wants it so that she opens her door, it unlocks, but the others stay locked until she prefers to actually unlock them with the rocker switch. She has listened to these 'safety' lectures about security in parking lots etc. as she enters her car.
She liked her Volvo that push the button once, just the drivers door unlocked. Had to push it again to unlock the other doors.
I didn't get to ask them about it Wens. when I went back to the dealer. The 'regular crew chief' who knows this stuff wasn't in. So, next visit.
Thanks again.
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Old 05-01-2005, 02:06 AM   #8 (permalink)
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JOHND: You say when (she open the door). Are you saying she is opening the drivers door or the pasenger door. If she has the smart key on her and open the passenger door all doors will unlock. System is not intended to have two smart keys in or near the car at the same time. The system assumes the driver has the smart key. In my case my wife is to impaient to wait for me to get in the car and unlock the passenger doors. I have all doors unlock at the same time so I don't get any greef from her. Hope this helps. by the way my wife has left purse in car and I could not lock doors. Did I know she left purse in the car (NO). Cant live with them Cant live without them.
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Old 05-01-2005, 10:46 AM   #9 (permalink)
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It is when she opens the drivers door.
We test it by leaving my s.key inside the house, have her lock the car with either the handle button or her s.key. Walk off, then return into range and open her (drivers) door. All of the doors unlock, or at least if you attempt to open either of the three, they are unlocked.
Then we try it with they same, except first open one of the three, they are all unlocked.
We have attempted to 'reprogram' the smart key. It does as they say and after about 5 sec it flashes at least twice( I thought it may be goiung through two reprog so I held it until it flashed 3 times) All give the same results.
I still get the impression from the book that this is wrong. That just the drivers door should unlock. Maybe I'm reading too much into it. It doesn't say for sure that it is suppose to work the way I think they imply.
Presskev says that his works the way I think they imply it should.
We may have a run on smart key batteries at the rate we are 'testing' the system.
Oh well. It is a nice new toy for us old people to learn how to operate. I guess I should have gotten the navigation system. At least, I learned how to operate my GPS in my air plane. Well, at least I didn't get lost while using it and my nav maps.
Thanks for the reply.
Did your smart key blink once, twice or what when you attempted to change modes?
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:23 PM   #10 (permalink)
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JohnD: I just tried it. First I locked doors then held down lock and trunk button (on remote) and waited till Three beep sounded. It switched mode and only the driver door unlocked when you try to enter. I then did it again and there was Two beeps this time and switched back where all door opened. Let me say that the sound is two beeps followed by another two beeps with in one second of each other. the same goes for the other mode (beep beep) (beep beep) (beep beep). Hold the buttons down until you hear the BEEPS. Will take about 5 seconds
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Old 05-01-2005, 02:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks for the reply.
I just tried what you did and no change. I tried it with both my key and my wifes' key.(at separate times with the other key well out of range).
Made no difference if it had two sets of beeps or three sets. On both, i would open the drivers door and while it was open, reached back and the rear door (on the drivers side) was unlocked. I didn't try the doors on the other side of the car.
Did it make a difference as to how you locked the car? With the key or button on the handle? Was there a difference if the drivers door had first been opened and then closed before trying the other doors?
I'm grasping at straws here as you can tell.
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Old 05-01-2005, 11:16 PM   #12 (permalink)
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John: Let me ask a question? Do you have remote start on your avalon?. I normally lock the car by pushing the button on the handle. how are you unlocking the car, using the handle or with remote? When I have the mode in all doors open at the same time, I can see the inside passanger door (unlock) as I touch the drivers door handle. Whe I have in Driver only door The inside lock does not move. I am wondering if the correct buttons are being used on your remote when you change modes. I think it is time to go to the dealer and say (HELP). Mine works correctly every time I change modes. You just may have a bad remote or worse. Sorry
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Yes, I have the remote start .
I've tried locking and unlocking with both the door handle button and the s. key.
As for the correct buttons on the remote when changing modes, my book says to use the 'lock switch and either the alarm switch or the trunk opener switch'. That is what I use and I just don't get the proper results.
I am beginning to suspect some computer problems. Three reasons. The smart key thing, the rt outside mirrow will not remember its' setting, and yesterday the headlights came on as I drove into the garage (not unusual since it is fairly dark in there) but 12 minutes later, they were still on (while in auto position). I had to enter the car and select the 'dot' position to get them off. Glad I had to go back out in the garage or maybe the first dead battery.
I'll just take it in to see what they tell me.
Thanks for your help.
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JOHN: I miss the adjustable delay on headlights. Mine will come on in the garage also but after I turn the car off I move the light switch to the off position and then back to the auto position. If you do this the light will go off and stay off. Never should the lights stay on for 12 min. Should say on for 30 45 seconds, but to me even thats too long.
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Old 05-16-2005, 08:31 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Just got my Limited Friday. Here is my input on the locking situation based on having no other smart key near the car but mine. I am using the option to unlock the driver's door only. If I unlock that door, get in and close the door, no other doors will unlock from the outside. There are two beeps when I put my hand on the door handle. My Buick LeSabre works the same way. If I unlock the driver's door and have that door open, any other door will unlock from the outside. Hope this helps.
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