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Old 10-20-2005, 09:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1997 Coolant & Differental question..

Hi all.. I have a 1997 Corolla CE w/Auto with 62K. I'm not that mech minded so forgive any stupidity on my part. I recently decided to flush out the coolant & AT fluid. I went to AutoZone's website and followed their pics. I thought I'd share them with you before proceeding to the main question at hand:

Here's a pic of the coolant after the 1st drain out the the raidiator:



Then I refilled the radiator with distilled water, and ran the engine with the heater on for 10 minutes. The result of the 2nd drain:



Not much of a difference, so I did it a third time. After the 3rd flush, I decided to put in some Prestone Super Flush, and then drained it another 2 times. Then refilled with SuperTech Coolant. I believe I am the 1st one who's flushed the coolant in the car's life ( Im the 2nd owner ).




Fine. So now I mixed the coolant to about a 70% strength in a 1 gallon jug and filled up the radiator and ran the engine then topped it off. The next day I decided to test the coolant with a tester, and found that it's only 'good' for about -20F ( basically, all but 1 of the4 little balls in the tester floated). Should I now drain off some of the coolant and put in just straight coolant until i get the maxium concentration?

It was getting a bit dark so I decided to put off the AT flush until the next day.

I crawled under the car and found the AT plug and carefully drained out the AT fluid into an empty clean Oil change pan. There seems to be 2 different camps on changing AT fluid. Some say you can just drain and refill. Others say to do it this way, which I did. I decided not to 'drop the pan' since I didn't have the gaskets or time really to do it. Having read on some threads that I should keep a careful eye on the amount that drains out, and then replace it with clean AT fluid ( D-III ) which I did. I'm glad I changed the AT fluid! It didnt seem that dirty on the dipstick but the stuff was almost black when it emptied out. I did keep a 4oz sample for possible later analysis. I refilled AT with exact same amount that I drained out, then I started the engine and while holding my foot on the brake, went through all the gears. This is supposed to move the undrained AT fluid out of the transfer case and move it into the drain pan. After this, I drained out again, and replaced. The stuff was still coming out darker than I would have imagined. I'm probably the 1st person the change the AT fluid in this car.

While I was doing this, I started to look for the differential as it is described on the Autozone website, but I couldn't find it! It's supposed to be above/in front the the AT pan? Here is the pic I took under the car, facing toward the drivers seat underneath.




Maybe it's above and behind the AT case, I didnt look since again it was getting dark and I didn't have the car jacked up and could not see behind it. Could someone verify the location for me?
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Old 10-21-2005, 10:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Follow The axle to find the diff:

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its good...

when are you changing the diff fluid?? let us know how u found it and the procedure u followed... is it not required to flush the diff. fluid when we change AT fluid?
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One suggestion, you could have taken off the trans cooler line that run into the bottom of the radiator to pump out the rest, I am planning on doing this soon myself, but haven't yet. I am not sure if that would have been better than just doing 2 drains as you did or not, any feedback folks. Make sure to check you trans dipstick after the car has been drive a while.

I am also going to do my coolant too, I think 70% is the max you can go, I am not sure how cold it gets, but on warmer days, if you have them in Ill winter, like I do in Denver, you car may run cold with all of that coolant, normal is 50% which is supposed to be good to -10 I believe.

You did use a high quality anti freeze right? One that has no silicates or phosphates right?
Prestone Extended, Peak Global Life are two that fit that. I am using Peak Global as it comes with a warranty off their website, but I have heard Prestone is good too.

P.S. Get the Haynes manual it is worth the $15 bucks for your diff change.

Just thinking, not sure if it matters maybe someone can chime in, did you drain the engine block as well as the radiator or only radiator?

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I drained both the radiator and the block when I replaced my radiator hoses, and did a full flush as described in the haynes manual, then drained everything again. I put new OEM ones on, as when the shop my aunt went to replaced the radiator, they used universal cut-to-fit hoses and didn't bother cutting them to fit. Long story short, the lower radiator hose (they were too fat anyway) rubbed against the radiator fan motor housing and eventually sprung a leak whenever the system pressurised. I swear by the orange GM Dex-Cool coolant (as does my grandfather, a veteran automotive machinist), as it doesn't have a penchant for eating water pump seals and some head gasket material like the green stuff does...
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One suggestion, you could have taken off the trans cooler line that run into the bottom of the radiator to pump out the rest,
I read that in another post, but since this was my 'virgin' A/T fluid change, I thought I'd play it safe. Maybe when it clocks in at 80K I will drop the pan and clean it.

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Just thinking, not sure if it matters maybe someone can chime in, did you drain the engine block as well as the radiator or only radiator?
Well, I did read in another thread, but some others said it really didnt matter since you'd be flushing out the entire system anyway with distilled water. I didn't want to mess around looking for that mysterious engine block bolt. Af far as getting it up to 70%, I just finished draining out about 2 quarts and refilled with straight Coolant..should be up to 60-70% now, if not, I will repeat. I'm using ST brand from Wally World..maybe I will use the good stuff If I decide to keep the car.

As far as locating the differential & it's drain and fill plugs, I beleive I found them. The differential is actually between the engine and firewall. The fill plug was the only one I could see without jacking up the car. I've read that its a big ass hex bold, about 20mm. Probably could see it if I jacked up the car and got under by the firewall ( it's scarry! ) It's in an utterly hellish location, just above the frame beam, and just in front ( about 4" ) of the rack i beleive. Its that long tube with the boots on both ends...no not the axle. This tube is mounted on the firewall. I'm probably going to have to get one of those double jointed ratchet extensions to get the fill plug out. Here are some pictures:




Also, I have a 1997, which claims to need Dexron II for the differential, but nobody seems to carry it anymore. Is Dexron III acceptable for differential?? I'll probably call Toyota to find out.
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Dexron III is the direct replacement for Dexron II, and exceeds all previous Dexron II standards.
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