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Old 02-23-2006, 07:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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If any of you have followed along with my slow posts over the year, you'll know I did work on my car and then had it double checked at a toyota dealership. At that time, the following things happened:

They readjusted the float on the carb,
They fixed the timing,
and I had them tune the carburetor.

So now my car is barely running now. I take it in to a guy who is a friend of about eight people I trust, and he does all their auto work.

The float on the carb is so off I have fuel coming out of the secondary carb barrel at idle. The timing is about 8 degrees off. And the carburetor is adjusted as rich as the screw will go.

Now I have run the car this way for luckily, not long enough to fuck up my engine. However, the only reason I learned any of this is because the vacuum advance developed a leak. The car would no longer idle, ran rough... was basically, I understand now, half flooded all the time.

I replaced the vacuum advance. The problem did not go away. So I take it in to this guy. I find it horribly amusing that the problems he had found are what my gut said were wrong with the car... And the reasons I took it in to that toyota dealership.

Now... Who do I call to set the wheels in process to make sure this doesn't happen to someone else?
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Old 02-23-2006, 07:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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And I thought it was only happening here. Toyota owners here only go to the Toyota Dealership for their maintenace for two reasons: 1. The car is still under warranty or 2. They want it maintained by them to be sold within 5 years. Otherwise we just go have it serviced at the gas station because we can watch these guys as they fix our car and it's cheaper. We keep on hearing bad things about dealerships like having them fix the car for a certain problem but all they do was the standard tune-up. It would do well if you can get someone inside and set an agreement with him to fix your car outside the dealership.
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Old 02-23-2006, 08:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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posting in here is the first tip, oh and people BEWARE of SAL at Jackson toyota in barrie ontario! avoid them over all charged me for a 4 wheel alignment only did 3, kept my money and said it was ok I had to hold the wheel to the left not to go into the ditch! :@:@:@:@
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There's a feedback forum specifically for this kind of stuff too.
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When i had my 86 rolla (4A-C) no body would touch the carb with a 10 foot pole, they all said it wasn't worth the frustration to difficult to many screwy things to be messed up.
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Their ineptitude should not be an allowable excuse. The carbs on the 4A-C are a vast deal simpler then the AISIN 28200 i'm working with, if what I've seen on a 4A-C is what belongs on one. The carb is easy to work with. It's just a matter of trying to be precise instead of "good enough." I've done precise with everything on this car I've touched. With all this shit wrong with it, and 1mm holes in some of the vac lines, it was still drivable.

Now all of the problems I've been able to find have been fixed. And just to be safe, I'm replacing probably another fifteen feet of aging vac lines before they sprout air funnels.

Perhaps I'm still just a little bit upset. But frankly, while I dislike some of the design aspects of this particular carburetor and feel it can be done more effectively, it is precisely what it wants to be - A carb that needs relatively little tuning. Now I know you can tune a carb with the float level as well.

Knowledge is power. Knowledge that a toyota dealership attempted to destroy my vehicle... That knowledge I'm going to apply.

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digital_racer, you think Toyota service there sucks, you should see the mercedes or volvo service.
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