Hey guys I am fairly new to this forum, i have a mint condition AE92 that my parents basically gave, body is mint no rust anywhere underneath is even better, now my first plan was to get a civic and do it up but then thank god i didnt get one or else it would just be another civic on the road... I wanna turn my corolla into a street machine... so my first questions would be what would be a good fast motor to put into it... 2nd where could i get one ?!?!
Nice one on getting the AE92, but please, more information on the car. What does it have right now? Personally I like the redtop 16v 4AGEs that are in the GT-S models, and they are super fun to drive even stock, or if you just want to get a bit more noise and a little better air flow, a nice header and a K&N filter...or w/e is your preference.
As for engines that can be dropped into it, the most popular is probably the silvertop 20v 4AGEs, you can find them on eBay...just make sure that if you go that route, you make sure it comes with all the wiring, including the ECU.
Another popular choice is the 4AGZE, the supercharged engine found in MR-2s..i forgot the model numbers, as I'm not an MR-2 owner. The internals are stronger than the other stock 4AGEs, so if you are planning on running boost, this would be the option for you. Again, make you get the all the wiring and ECU.
Anyone else please correct me, I'm not the best source of information but I try
BTW the 4AGZE was also found in the Japanese AE92 Levin and Trueno GTZs
I'd go with a 20V Silvertop 4AGE... actually that's what I'm going for.. The Silvertop is better than the blacktop for turbocharging, but still doesn't beat the 4AGZE for turbo... UNLESS you go with the GZE pistons.
As for where to get a silvertop.. they pop up once a while here and there, complete and incomplete.. I've seen them for as low as $450 CDN for an incomplete motor to as high as $1500-2000 CDN for a complete motor.
Search around the Corolla forum for older swap threads, and do some research on the net for 20V and 4AGZE swaps to get some more insight.
BTW, the ultimate swap would be a 3SGTE out of a Celica AllTrac/GT4 or MR2 Turbo.. but that's another story dude.
well actually i was just about to ask about the 3sgte motor, seeing as i wont be doing the swap myself a close friend of the family who used to be a mechanic for toyota would be helping me do this.... If you could PM with what would be needed to do a 3sgte swap i'd be very interested.... also my car is an lsx 4 door sedan, I'd be the only one from around my area with a corolla like this... i'd like to make it very rare lol
No need for PM dude.. like I said if you did a search, you would find out that you need:
Motor, ECU, Harness, FWD transmission (Either from a ST165 or ST185 Celica or an 92-01 Camry, or you could use the MR2 Transmission but it would have to be converted to FWD) plus clutch upgrade, then you would need to custom build engine mounts for the motor as the ones in there won't line up, fuel system upgrade, and probably a lot of other things. It's not a cheap swap and if you're not serious about it you shouldn't attempt it, expect to spend about $4000+ to get the motor setup, plus whatever else it will cost you to do upgrades, and on top of that what you will pay to get it installed.
You'd be better off staying in with the 4AGE swaps if you don't have $10,000+ to sink into a project.
Do a search on TN for "half trac celica" as that's what they call the FWD 3SGTE Celicas and basically the only difference will be having to do custom mounts on the Corolla.
its the 4 door sedan lsx.... i believe the motor in it is a 4afe ??? i think....16 valve.... aiight looks like a 4age 20valve silver top it is LOL.. and its automatic.... so ill be changing that over also !!
well i was in the same boat as you i got an ae92 from my parents it really kept me away from rice (thank god) cept mine was a gts. one thing about the 20v is the after market support is not as high as the 16v's. if it were me i would lean a little bit more towards the 4agze gtz engine because of the aftermarket support and ablity to turbo it too. dumb question are the levin headlights the same as the 4 door? would the hood fit?
BTW the 4AGZE was also found in the Japanese AE92 Levin and Trueno GTZs
I'd go with a 20V Silvertop 4AGE... actually that's what I'm going for.. The Silvertop is better than the blacktop for turbocharging, but still doesn't beat the 4AGZE for turbo... UNLESS you go with the GZE pistons.
As for where to get a silvertop.. they pop up once a while here and there, complete and incomplete.. I've seen them for as low as $450 CDN for an incomplete motor to as high as $1500-2000 CDN for a complete motor.
Search around the Corolla forum for older swap threads, and do some research on the net for 20V and 4AGZE swaps to get some more insight.
BTW, the ultimate swap would be a 3SGTE out of a Celica AllTrac/GT4 or MR2 Turbo.. but that's another story dude.
Before picking a motor, I would say it depends if you want NA power or boosted power, and what your budget is...
ST 20v tho, would personally be my last choice here in the states as replacement parts will cost a lot, and take long time to arrive. A ST 20v is no faster than a slightly done up small port head 16v and is much harder to deal with because of the ITB (although the sound is amazing )
If you want mild boost and know how to tune, I would go with a big port "red hat" 4age as they have lower compression than the small ports, but stronger internals than the "blue hat" big ports. These 4AGEs are relatively easy to find, so even if you blow a hole in the side of the block, replacing it will cost you a few hundred bucks in parts at most.
The 20V ST is becoming much more popular now that parts are starting to show up everywhere, I'm in the process of piecing together a 20V ST and I think I might end up doing it a LOT cheaper than you would expect to buy an already complete motor.
Also the good thing about the ST is that it shares components with the GZE, for example you can swap the GZE pistons into the ST and be able to handle pretty good boost. The ST can already handle as much boost as a red top, so it would be a sweet motor after doing an ST/GZE hybrid.
BTW the 16V 4AGEs are starting to become rare as the cars age.. remember they're 16-18yrs old now so its time to start collecting part bins or else you'll be left out in the cold when you can't find those parts anymore.
well my main thing is to drop a motor in it thats fairly quick without boost, to drive around for about a year and then boost it... so ur saying the red top 4age would be better for it ??
if i were you.. i'd save the money now, if you current motor is still ok and then drop a 3S-GTE and get it over with. stock with OEM reliability and you can go to toyota and order parts. boosting a non-FI motor will be more expensive in the long run. did i say that's a 2.0L turbo motor compared to 1.6L turbo? well, nuff said!
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yeah guy just wait and get a proper 3sgte... thats my next step... already went from blue-top to red-top and then silvertop... so far the silvertop is the most fun and best sounding except the 180km limiter... blue and redtops dont have them... ive taken both motors past 220km/h. reliability wise i would have to say nothing can touch the 1.6L bluetop.
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The Silvertop is better than the blacktop for turbocharging, but still doesn't beat the 4AGZE for turbo... UNLESS you go with the GZE pistons. 
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