what motor will fit my all trac sedan

[grasshopper1g]

its a 1989 corolla all trac sedan with 4A-FE and auto trans with overdrive. what motors will fit the trans that i got? what parts will i need from the other car that i get the motor from?

[punter]

Any A series will bolt up, however the 4afe's have a 6 bolt crank and most 4ages are 8 bolt. so you would need an 4age 8 bolt flex-plate (and possibly torque converter) to bolt it up.

IMO its not worth doing a 4age swap if your planning on running an auto.

As for other parts you will need, 4age Loom and ECU, and axillaries (starter/alternator/PS pump).

A search will turn up these answers if you can be bothered.

[grasshopper1g]

i did a search but theres not to much about the all trac. i don't know if the all trac wagon is the same as the sedan as fare as drive-train. and what motor would you put with the auto trans?

[punter]

With regards to the wagon/sedan the ones we recieved (NZ) were the same.

What motor would I put in??
I'd leave the standard one in and just save up and buy a better car.

But hey thats just me, All I can say is price up your options, 4age swaps seem to be extremly expensive over there.

Answer these questions

1. Why do you want to change the motor in you car?
2. What do you want to end up with? (Ie. performance goals)
3. Whats you budget
4. Can you do the work yourself?

[grasshopper1g]

1. more power and i like this car. i would like to get more pep out of it. its not my daily driver car. its like a learning experience. i don't know to much about imports, I'm more of a american car lover.

2. about 20 more hp and low end power.

3. i don't know yet

4. yes,

[toyotaspeed90]

4age's have practically no low end power

a 4age block will NOT bolt up.... something about the tranny is slightly different... you would need to use your engine block and get early (85/86) 4age internals...

an 8 bolt flexplate and 4age torque convertor is easy to find.... i actually have them lying around here

[punter]

Originally Posted by toyotaspeed90

a 4age block will NOT bolt up.... something about the tranny is slightly different...

I've seen 4agzes bolted up them no problem, unless the ones you guys got were different.
And since there is no (real) difference between the blocks why would this be.

[grasshopper1g]

i thought all 4a blocks are the same, from i have seen from this forum?

[toyotaspeed90]

there's an indentation that the FE motors have that the ge's didn't... (including the 7a).... something on the tranny, apparently

i went over this in another thread... this info was from a guy over on mr2oc.com who used to rally the sedans, and had run into this problem...

[grasshopper1g]

well that sucks ass. so do you know anything that i could do to the motor i got now?

[lifeisviewtiful]

turbo

[REN69]

I've seen an ALL-TRAC Corolla Sedan with a 16V 4AGE on it and still retained the AWD.. I can't find the damn link though.. GRRR!! it's here somewhere.

FOUND IT!!!

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t66578.html
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t66577.html

Pics have expired though.. 4AGE head on 4AFE block.. that's why he was able to keep the AWD system.

Found a pic on dorikaze.com from his post.. no motor pics though..

[punter]

http://www.turbocorolla.com/cars/larsc.htm

Seems to work for him.

I've seen a couple of 4wd 4age's over here both use 4age blocks. Maybe you guys did get a different setup to the japs.

[REN69]

His wagon is teh pimp!!

[cuzman]

Maattte! from aussie here ...done it! You will need the flywheel/t/coverter etc and it will bolt up! no prob..
now heres the prob
One of the bolt mounting points for the cetre diff need to be grinded back bout 1/4 inch i used an angle grinder..its good still works no stress probs
All of my 20v motor is std hence the alt is on the other side ..wiring issues
You cant fit the super charged 4age16v as the charger is were the centre diff is!
If you need more info justinlinton@hotmail.com or just re post