I Once had 2 Corolla GT-Ss till I gutted and scrapped one. So now I have a spare engine in my garage. But there is a problem. The engine is the cars second engine and I have no idea if it is the 84-85 version otr the 86-87 version. How can I find out what year it is. I need to know cuz I'm concidering dropping it in and abandonning my current 88-89 Japaneese impoted engine due to the difficulty of finding parts for it as well as all the problems it has.
why do you need to know? just take a look at the model year of the car it was pulled from..
and what makes you think getting parts for this engine will be any easier?
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Thats just it thoe. the 2 owners before me gave my first GT-S a engine swap. So unless I can travel back in time 5 years and find the owner I have no clue what car the engine came from.
Correct me if I'm wrong but at the time wern't all the engines made in Japan at that time? So if all the engines were made in the same place then they would all be the same. Making it easyer to get parts as they are readily avaliable over here. Where as if a engine was made differently in diffrent places the parts will not match up thus making it more difficult to get the parts that may differ from the version that was made readily avalible over here Also for tune ups the engine willl differ in how it is set up making tune ups over here incorect for this engine.
I've almost given up on the engine. I've spent almost $2,000 on trying to get it to stop overheating and to solve the major powerloss problem wich may be linked seeing how overheating will cause power loss. Now parts that I need are not easily accesable and this is becoming more of a burden due to the lack of accesibillity to these parts when I need them. Also many mechanics keep getting confused because they think the proper engine is in when it is not and I have to keep telling them that even thoe my car is a 86 the engine is a 88-89 and is imported from Japan. It would be much easyer if I have th proper engine in and I can just say it is a 86.
like I said on my other post.. it could also be an MR2 4AGE.. the mr2 being mid-engine.. the water pump could be shaped differently.. give the MR2 4AGE and 4AGZE water pumps a try.. they might just fit.
like I said on my other post.. it could also be an MR2 4AGE.. the mr2 being mid-engine.. the water pump could be shaped differently.. give the MR2 4AGE and 4AGZE water pumps a try.. they might just fit.
... You know I can't just keep ordering parts that are not commonlly ordered just to see if they will fit. The parts guy was starting to show me some attitude cuz I had to return the last water pump. The guy is usually cool but he was being a prick that day. I could bring the car in and have them take a look at it but I've already done that and they don't have a clue.
i don't mean to sound harsh, but dude, you don't have the slightest clue what you're doing, do you? not being sarcastic or cruel...i'm dead serious. I mean, you don't even know the basic lineage of the vehicle or engine. And thats something, i figured out even before i owned an ae86
all it takes is basic research.
all 4age's out of a rwd ae86 are the same.
the only difference in 4ages, is that of the non tvis one. i've heard that there are tvis 4ages with a 7rib block, but thats all thats different. nothing that would make finding difficult or the like.
as far as power loss, have you checked the compression of the engine?
for the water pump, I can't be sure that they are the same, but seeing as how it is belt driven, it would have to be on that side of the motor. I don't see any logic is why it would be different on different year motors. If you got your spare, maybe you can compare the 2. If they look the same, then they are probably the same. Also, get the parts guy to check if the part number for the AE86 waterpump is the same part number for the AE92. It could be that they order a pump for something other than a 4AGE.
i don't mean to sound harsh, but dude, you don't have the slightest clue what you're doing, do you? not being sarcastic or cruel...i'm dead serious. I mean, you don't even know the basic lineage of the vehicle or engine. And thats something, i figured out even before i owned an ae86
all it takes is basic research.
all 4age's out of a rwd ae86 are the same.
the only difference in 4ages, is that of the non tvis one. i've heard that there are tvis 4ages with a 7rib block, but thats all thats different. nothing that would make finding difficult or the like.
nick
... but didn't 7 rib came into paly in 88. That is what I curently have in my car is a 7rib tivis. But I belive you are the one who is mistaken. Didin't the engine that was equiped in the 84-85 have a different sized water pump than the 86-87? I'ts crap like that I want to know. The block I realise should be the same in some cases but what I want to know is the year. By knowing the year I will know what different parts it may have from other years. And so many parts from the 7 rib are incompatable with the ones from the original 4A-G block.
All I want to know was how to find out what year the engine is and possibly the car it came from. Is there a way to do this or is it a lost cause? Also wich version of the engine did we get in our AE86's here in Canada. The normal one or the Califonia version?
as far as power loss, have you checked the compression of the engine?
for the water pump, I can't be sure that they are the same, but seeing as how it is belt driven, it would have to be on that side of the motor. I don't see any logic is why it would be different on different year motors. If you got your spare, maybe you can compare the 2. If they look the same, then they are probably the same. Also, get the parts guy to check if the part number for the AE86 waterpump is the same part number for the AE92. It could be that they order a pump for something other than a 4AGE.
HTH
The parts #'s are different for the AE86 and AE92 pumps. And if you were also wondering the parts numbers are not displayed on the pumps.
The low comp 92 motor came with a 7 rib block and TVIS. We never got the Cali emissions equipped vehicles so you can get rid of all of the 4AGEC's. You've tried the AE86 pump and it doesn't fit.
From where I'm standing the only logical thing to do is to get ahold of a low comp 92 4AGE water pump and compare it. Somebody here must have a spare that they can let you have a look at.
btw, do a compression test, you might have a bad head gasket.
Originally posted by Deep The low comp 92 motor came with a 7 rib block and TVIS. We never got the Cali emissions equipped vehicles so you can get rid of all of the 4AGEC's. You've tried the AE86 pump and it doesn't fit.
From where I'm standing the only logical thing to do is to get ahold of a low comp 92 4AGE water pump and compare it. Somebody here must have a spare that they can let you have a look at.
btw, do a compression test, you might have a bad head gasket.
Ok. thanks. Mabey I should just pull my water pump and go to a scrap yard and keep pulling pumps from different gen AE92 and AW11 till I get a match?
Any way I got the phone # of a place that imports Japaneese parts so I think I'll give them a call and see if they can be any help.
other than internal parts, and some accompanying mechanical parts, the engines are pretty much the same.
the only differences i've encountered are in the distributor, cams and valvetrain (obviously) and clutch/flywheel.
other than that, your oil pump, water pump, alternator, oil pan, etc. should be the same.
if its a 7rib block that you have, tell the parts guy you need "such and such" for a 91 4age. you know for a fact that the 91 ae92 came with a 7 rib block. if you need stuff for the head, tell them you ned "such and such" for a 1985 tvis head.
if you order the wrong part from toyota, if you're on a good rapor with the parts people, they will most likely let you return the aprt in exchange for the proper one.
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