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Old 05-05-2006, 12:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 05 Corolla S and right now it is bone stock, the only thing that I would like to do to it is add a a short ram air intake, and now I know that is not a whole lot of power and I know that its only like 7hp and about 10lb of torque, I have done some research and looking at some some threads here and other forums it looks like when some people add the short ram air intake they only gain the power on full throttle, and loose power in the low and mid range rpm, and according to this dyno chart (which is for a 04) http://www.aempower.com/pdf/dyno/22-...%20S%20SRS.pdf it looks like it only looses a few lbs at about 3500....

but here is my question, will the 04 short ram intake work on my 05??? Also what is your guys thot on the power drop issue, any comment appreciated.

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Old 05-05-2006, 05:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You def. won't get 7 hp. Maybe with that and a full exhaust. A common problem with short rams is that you suck in hot air from the engine bay.

Not sure if the 2005 will work on the 04 as there are some minor engine differences, but it's just a pipe... I'd make my own.
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Old 05-05-2006, 05:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey man, I have an '05 Corolla also I am also faced with the same dilemma as the rest of us 05-06 owners. The difference between the 03-04's and 05 and up is that 05 has a drive by wire throttle body which is meant to greatly increase throttle response. Honestly, i don't know the difference b/w the short ram intakes but I know that now Cosmo Racing offers a SRI exclusively for the '05 Rollas. Its only like 80 bux so its a great deal too. I have heard great things from Cosmo so it would be just as good a bet as AEM, Injen, K&N, etc... I have heard of people using intakes for 03-04's with no problems and some got a check engine light, but you never know until you try. I hope that helped!
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Old 05-06-2006, 01:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I agree cold air is better than short ram, but the only thing I am affraid of is getting water when it rains (and here in TX when it rains, it comes down like its never coming back) and flooding the engine with water, I have read somewhere that there is such a thing as water bypass valve, but I have not been able to find a lot of info on it, and if someone can enlighten me to it I would appreciate it....

also I checked out Cosmo Racing for the cold air and short ram intakes they are claiming 7HP gain with the cold air, but I agree that is unrealistic you need to move the air out as well as into the engine, but I am really looking for that intake sound when you floor it, and when I am cruising I want it to be quiet, which from my understanding is what an intake wud provide, but I figured since I am putting a intake on it might as well gain a pony or two while I am at it...

Lemme know what you guys think?

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Your right in the fact that the increase in hp will be minimal. Plus a lot of 05/06 owners are throwing CEL's with the addition of any intake. Your best bet is the cosmo for the 05. I've also heard that the 03/04 weapon-r intakes work well too w/ a breather. Whatever you do, don't make your own.
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Old 05-06-2006, 09:25 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I wudnt make my own in the first place not that good with pipes and everything.... Ok stupid question what are CEL's?????
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I agree that the Cosmo would be the best bet for you since your are an '05. Personally, I want to keep things as stock as possible (for warranty reasons) so I am just using the TRD drop-in filter. It's a barely noticeable change in performance without all the worries. Another option it to remove the lower snorkel from your stock air intake and you will get that intake sound and the added performance for FREE!!!
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I agree that the Cosmo would be the best bet for you since your are an '05. Personally, I want to keep things as stock as possible (for warranty reasons) so I am just using the TRD drop-in filter. It's a barely noticeable change in performance without all the worries. Another option it to remove the lower snorkel from your stock air intake and you will get that intake sound and the added performance for FREE!!!
Ok another stupid question for you........ so if I just remove the lower part of the intake (I am assuming that is what u meant by snorkel) I wud get that intake sound???? Because that is really all I am looking for, the added pony or two is nice but I just want it to be heard a little more when u step on the throttle... also if u could explain a little more what to do to to get that "FREE" sound and what exactly the snorkel is...

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The last time I heard there were no air intakes for the 05 - 06 Corolla S, LE and CE because they have a drive by wire throttle and the 03 - 04 parts do not work. Maybe, they came out with some.

Anyway, how much you gain from a cold air intake or short ram intake on your 1ZZ is totally dependent on how the engine responds to it. It varies from engine to engine. I am quite sure you will gain quite a bit. Atleast around 6 - 7 whp. Having said that, from personal experience I know for a fact that the 2ZZ GE Celica GTS engine (Corolla XRS) responds extremely well to intake (because the stock intake is too restrictive) and driving makes you feel every bit of the gains. It is dyno proven that it increases horsepower from 150 wheel horsepower to 162 - 163 wheel horsepower (around 185 at the crank). Throw an exhaust and that adds another 5 - 6 whp. Now we are talking around 192 - 194 HP at the crank on the 2ZZ with simple mods out from a 1.8 liter engine. However, I am sure you will not lose any power unless the installation is not done correctly.



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I have a 05 Corolla S and right now it is bone stock, the only thing that I would like to do to it is add a a short ram air intake, and now I know that is not a whole lot of power and I know that its only like 7hp and about 10lb of torque,
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If you're ocncerned about warranty issues, removing the snorkel will have the same effect on your warranty as throwing an aftermarket intake on there.

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The last time I heard there were no air intakes for the 05 - 06 Corolla S, LE and CE because they have a drive by wire throttle and the 03 - 04 parts do not work. Maybe, they came out with some.

Anyway, how much you gain from a cold air intake or short ram intake on your 1ZZ is totally dependent on how the engine responds to it. It varies from engine to engine. I am quite sure you will gain quite a bit. Atleast around 6 - 7 whp. Having said that, from personal experience I know for a fact that the 2ZZ GE Celica GTS engine (Corolla XRS) responds extremely well to intake (because the stock intake is too restrictive) and driving makes you feel every bit of the gains. It is dyno proven that it increases horsepower from 150 wheel horsepower to 162 - 163 wheel horsepower (around 185 at the crank). Throw an exhaust and that adds another 5 - 6 whp. Now we are talking around 192 - 194 HP at the crank on the 2ZZ with simple mods out from a 1.8 liter engine. However, I am sure you will not lose any power unless the installation is not done correctly.
oh shit, that has to be one of the funniest things I've ever read. An intake and exhaust on the xrs and you'll be pushing 192hp
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OK can somebody tell me what the snorkel is, I know it is a stupid question and yes I have to agree, but I am not very car engine oritented and also if you take the snorkel off is it a bolt on thing to put on if you take your car for warranty, or du you physically have to cut something off of the stock air intake???

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oh shit, that has to be one of the funniest things I've ever read. An intake and exhaust on the xrs and you'll be pushing 192hp
Ahhh..OK Mr. Automotive engineer. Do you need a cookie??? Here is one.

Just because you are ignorant of the facts and do not know what you are trying to argue about does not lead to a fault on my part for stating the facts.

The next time you try to throw a dumb ass comments someone's way, atleast bother to give a chance to the next person to justify and explain his claim. Maybe, you might learn something new that you never knew of before.
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Look at the tread ae95 parts and acc as this will help i just posted it

As far as the sound goes i'd leave the top of the air box as the ram air will still give you plenty of cold air once moving......check the diamitor of you intake pipe and buy a pod filter to suit..theres heaps out ther
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OK can somebody tell me what the snorkel is, I know it is a stupid question and yes I have to agree, but I am not very car engine oritented and also if you take the snorkel off is it a bolt on thing to put on if you take your car for warranty, or du you physically have to cut something off of the stock air intake???

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The snorkel is the black pipe that runs from the driver's side of the air box towards the bottom of the car. Yes it can be put back on to bring it in for warranty work.


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Ahhh..OK Mr. Automotive engineer. Do you need a cookie??? Here is one.

Just because you are ignorant of the facts and do not know what you are trying to argue about does not lead to a fault on my part for stating the facts.

The next time you try to throw a dumb ass comments someone's way, atleast bother to give a chance to the next person to justify and explain his claim. Maybe, you might learn something new that you never knew of before.
Wow, what are you 12?
Ok buddy, show me an xrs dyno pushing 192-194 w/ intake and exhaust. That's an increase in 30HP!!! Just because you read that, "This *insert name* intake will give you 20HP!!" doesn't mean that it will.
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