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Innervision · 05-15-2006, 01:01 PM

Hi all,

I was wondering if someone might be able to help me with this noise that I am getting after stalling out last night. There was a big rain storm last night and on the way home I didn't see a puddle of water and was barely able to make it through, but the engine stalled out right after that. After about 10 mins, the engine was able to come back on, but the car sounded horrible. It has gone from horrible sounding to now troubling sounding.

I am driving a 2005 Corrola Sport with 8k miles on it. The sound is that of a metal clicking that begins upon start up. As I accelerate the clicking speeds up, and as I decelerate the noise slows down. Also, with no foot on the gas pedal I hear no noise while driving. The car seems to be a bit sluggish as it seems to stutter when I accelerate. When stopped, the car will shake a bit (the stuttering again).

A friend of mine told me to put in Lucas Lubricating Oil and that should fix the problem, and the mechanic I went to right now said the can't diagnose anything without doing some tests, although the noise did not sound too bad to him and thought that the Lucas might do the trick. The mechanic was thinking it might be some pipes loose, or that maybe the pipes burst completly when water got in them.

Any help would be grand.

-Cya

Pineapple · 05-15-2006, 01:06 PM

How deep was the puddle? You could have water in the oil pan. As least change your oil and see if it help. If not, you might have spun a bearing or two. Lucas oil will do nothing for you, don't even try.

daniel2002p · 05-15-2006, 01:08 PM

do you have any CEL or any other light ON on the dash?

Innervision · 05-15-2006, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pineapple

How deep was the puddle? You could have water in the oil pan. As least change your oil and see if it help. If not, you might have spun a bearing or two. Lucas oil will do nothing for you, don't even try.

The puddle seemed to be about 3-6 in deep, with 6 in being the deepest. I was hoping that nothing bad happened from trying to start the car up 8 times after it had stalled. I was able to start it up on about the 8th try after about 10 mins. Was kinda worried that holding the gas pedal down and keeping the key turned to try and start it up had messed up my car. Dunno if this helps anymore...

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No daniel, the only light on is the check engine light. There were 2 lights on last night after I turned the car on the first time, but after allowing it to reset (I guess), the only light that appeared was the check engine light.

Also, the air filter was wet, and I allowed it to air dry over night.

daniel2002p · 05-15-2006, 01:15 PM

if the air filter was wet you may gotten some water in the oil pan as stated earlier, from what it sounds like take Pineapple advice and change the oil, it will most likely fix it...

Innervision · 05-15-2006, 01:26 PM

Well I hope it will fix the problem....really don't want to have a mechanic look at it and go

And yea, the air filter was pretty wet. There was a little bit of water that had collected in the bottom of the filter holder that I had to dry up with a towel.

daniel2002p · 05-15-2006, 02:52 PM

What you also may want to do is remove the spark plugs from they holes and then just crank the car for a few seconds (not long enough to burn the starter), just to make sure if there is any water on top of the cylinders it will be shot out..... and make sure that all traces of water are gone from the whole air intake, the snorkel, get a new filter for sure, and I would remove the rubber pipe going to the throttle body (its a piece of cake just loosen the restainers and it comes off) and make sure they are dry too....

Hope you get your rolla in top shape,

D

Innervision · 05-15-2006, 05:01 PM

Well, I just took it to a mechanic who is a friend of the family. What he thinks it is, is water that is just stuck in the system that will burn itself out after I am able to get the car hot enough (I live in South Texas, shouldn't take long). Also, there is NO water in the oil or transmission fluid (mechanic checked that). His best advice is to take it in to the factory tomorrow and let them deal with it since it is only a year old and still under warranty for parts and labor. I will say this though, the more I run the car and the more it starts, the better it is starting to sound.

*edit* speeling misstackes

***REN69*** · 05-15-2006, 05:08 PM

You're lucky.. open the hood up and let the car dry out in the sun for a few hours.. if you can't wait, grab a ShopVac and either suck the water out or use the blower feature and dry it out.

JohnO356 · 05-15-2006, 05:41 PM

You said that the check engine light came on after driving through the water, and that it is still on. What kind of mechanics did you take it to? Neither of them checked the code? It may very well be you're just getting a misfire(s). You wouldn't have gotten water in the engine from driving through a six inch deep puddle. Forget Lucas oil, your problem is external. If it was that easy to get water into an engine, the engine would be throwing out it's oil. As said previously, get the top of the engine dried out. If your car has the deeply recessed sparkplugs, make sure it's dry down in there.

Innervision · 05-15-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by REN69

You're lucky.. open the hood up and let the car dry out in the sun for a few hours.. if you can't wait, grab a ShopVac and either suck the water out or use the blower feature and dry it out.

I was hoping it was gonna be dried out after I left the hood up on it in the garage last night, but hopefully it is just that stubborn water.

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Originally Posted by JohnO356

You said that the check engine light came on after driving through the water, and that it is still on. What kind of mechanics did you take it to? Neither of them checked the code? It may very well be you're just getting a misfire(s). You wouldn't have gotten water in the engine from driving through a six inch deep puddle. Forget Lucas oil, your problem is external. If it was that easy to get water into an engine, the engine would be throwing out it's oil. As said previously, get the top of the engine dried out. If your car has the deeply recessed sparkplugs, make sure it's dry down in there.

Ahh, now this I understand. The mechanic didn't want to touch the car yet other than hear the sounds and check various gauges because the people at the Toyota shop would get suspicious if anything had been corrected. I called them and after the storm last night their computers have been down all day >_< but was "assured" I would be able to get in tomorrow sometime. As for the engine itself, I need to remove the cover to it and can't find any wrenches here at my house to take off the plastic cover on top of the engine block. I tried that last night and couldn't find the right wrench. I am wondering just how deeply recessed these spark plugs are.

JohnO356 · 05-15-2006, 06:19 PM

DEEP. The best advice I can give you: Let the dealer handle it.

03mooncorolla · 05-15-2006, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnO356

DEEP. The best advice I can give you: Let the dealer handle it.

I'll second the above quote, let the dealer handle it!!!!!

You said 2005 8k miles, should be covered under warranty if it continues to run rough.(maybe something wasn't sealed properly).

epyon22 · 05-15-2006, 07:48 PM

yeah let the dealer handle it because if your having a hard time finding a socket for your plastic engine cover your going to have a really hard time finding a socket for the spark plugs.

Pineapple · 05-16-2006, 09:38 AM

You sure it was 6in? You shouldn't suck in water even with a cold air intake. 6in is too low for anything to happen. You got other problems. You'll need at least a foot deep puddle to stall stock car.
Also since he was driving it, the water is gone already.