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Old 03-02-2003, 01:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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AE86 question

Im planning to buy my first car, is the AE86 worth it?

I heard that 2 doors have a higher insurance rate than 4 door, is this true? lets say a 1987 AE86 hatch and a 1992 corolla sedan. do they have the same rate or is the AE86 cheaper?
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Old 03-02-2003, 02:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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buddy u need to goto

http://forums.12hundred.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4433

and read the newbie guide... all your answers will be found there...

I don't think anyone here is gona write a 2 page response... but remember this... unless u can do the work on your car YOURSELF and not rely on a SHOP then it's gona be pricey to operate

gl with ur decision
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Old 03-02-2003, 04:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Actually insurance wise it didn't even count as a sports car for me. My hatchback was just considered a 3 door coupe. It won't be that much as well because it is such an old car.

I got quoted at $2,700 a year for full coverage.
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I've read that, I just want your personal opinion...

..."I like this car coz it reliable..." "I hate this car coz it always breaks down"...etc...


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buddy u need to goto

http://forums.12hundred.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4433

and read the newbie guide... all your answers will be found there...

I don't think anyone here is gona write a 2 page response... but remember this... unless u can do the work on your car YOURSELF and not rely on a SHOP then it's gona be pricey to operate

gl with ur decision
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Even if you find a mint Hachi, you're gonna have to drop a whole lot of coin to get it into top shape. But the car is simple and easy to work on. If you don't mind getting dirty and you've got the time and cash to fix things then maybe its the car for you.
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Old 03-02-2003, 02:08 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Ok... I love my car because it's a blast to drive. I hate my car because it's an absolute bitch to find parts for. It also breaks a lot. EG, two of my parking brake cables snapped, I'm going to have them all replaced. I think one of my back calipers is siezed. It's got a leaky gas filler neck, and has rust. It is also really slow.
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whether ur car is reliable depends really on your particular hachi 15 years seperate the standard of ae86's by a lot... while someone may have 1 problem u may suffer something completely unrelated

there are COMMON problems with the ae86 and if u run into them they can be costly to repair if ur not a DO IT YOURSELFER

The examples of hatches range from piss poor parts cars to pristine track cars

don't be so quick to judge the car when u get it... like what deep said it's gona take alot of work for u to get it to a practicle/drivable/raceable(track) condition

I love my hatch although mine isn't streetable as of now It's more like a really expensive toy for me to play with

Insurance is more expensive than you think I was quoted around 2700 as well from TD

If you don't have hte space/time/money/effort then ur probably better off getting something else

stuff breaks... don't be surpised
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u will lose lots of hair trying to get parts for the car.
as a first car, i dont recommend getting an 86....it's more for someone who is sick in the head and hardcore enough to do anything to get parts...and go everywhere to get parts....and who researches all the time to find parts!!!

i dont understand why everyone wants one as a first car anyways....the car is slow and old. having an old car is nothing but headaches. dont get me wrong, the 86 is definately a good car...but as a first time driver, why drive soemthing that is 17 years old?
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17 yrs old ... hahaha. the driver and the car are the same age. But the car obviously has more experience
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OMG EK9, ur selling ur car?
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I don't usually post on these topics, but I know what you're going through =D.

The 86 is a great car to learn how cars work, no doubt. Parts are relatively cheap, working on it is pretty simple, excluding the fact you may encounter rusted out bolts, but thats granted on any old car, even found on neglected newer cars =D. With an open mind, and some determination, and a HUGE wallet, you'll have a fun and learning experience with the 86, for sure.

The 86 isn't like any other car (obviously), and it does have its quirks. Don't think of even modifying anything when you get it, because before you know it, you'll be getting maintence problems. From WTF is that squeaky noise, to awww SHIT my damn head gasket is blown, or my damn water pump just ceased! And I think all the 86ers, newbies or pro's can account for that first hand

In my honest opinion, if you come from a rich family, why the hell would you want an 86??? haha just kidding, it's managable. If you don't have the disposable income avavilable, it may be a little challenging. For sure, it's a money pit, and sometimes it's just down right frustrating.

If you're mechanically inclined, the 86 isn't that bad to fix. We've had the luxury of being helped when didn't know wtf an o2 sensor was, and later, what the hell the valve clearance was. It might seem pretty simple now, but it's really nice to have someone who knows a lot about cars right there, or a phone call away when you need it. (and hope you got the proper tools)

I gotta agree with the other guys on this though,
it's a horrible first car period.

No matter the condition, you'll always have something wrong with it, because it IS old. It takes alot of money, time, effort, searching, and it goes on forever. It's a slow car, (really it is), and most of the time, you'll be trying to find parts just to get it to work.

I'd recommend researching the 86, if you really want one. Theres alot of headaches that come with owning one, let alone finding one. It's a great car, just maybe not the best for a first car. I recommend you purcahse something newer, not to discourage you, but just because in hindsight, you'll see alot of money just disappear, and fast.

Personally, My brother and I have seen 3 86's
2 were scrapped for parts, and the third was built
we're lucky to have a pretty big garage, with a dad that's been pretty nice, considering we take up the whole garage, basically.
We've been lucky to have all the tools available to us, from the engine hoist, to ratchet sets, torque wrenches, and everything you'll need, down to those damn speciality tools toyota needs.
We've been lucky that nick gets huge discounts on shipping, and we've been lucky to have a faimly with massive amounts of automotive knowledge.

I'm glad that it wasn't my first car, and it was a project car. it spent most of the time in the garage, trying to get it to work right, then it did on the track or on the road.

Post back, and we can chit chat about it, constructively (sp?)
i'll help ya decide on the 86 in a non biased opinion, as i think most guys will as well. just a word of advice, don't even say one word of initial-d or takumi, you'll get flamed..

Good luck with your decision, and btw: it's hard to pick up hot girls in an 86, as opposed to a newer car

edit: I keep forgetting things =( Yeah, dont' rely on a shop, it's a do it yourself car for sure, or don't get one thing. IT'd be way to expensive for a shop to do... and don't be surprised when you see thousands of dollars disappear fast... heh..

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it could be your FIRST car

just odn' tmake it your ONLY car.
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haha good point , peter, about the picking up chicks thing..

my ae86 gives people headaches from the exhaust noise and uncatalyzed hydrocarbons.. i had a female friend in the passenger seat once and she was getting nausious..

not to mention its a bad highway car, esp if you have an aftermarket exhaust on it..

i have a 'daily driver' car which is my VW, and its about 300 times more civilized than my ae86.. i don't know if i could put up with my ae86 if it was my only car..
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Yea, I do think it's a bad Idea to have an 80's car that isn't mint as the main source of transportation, I remember a couple years back when we only had a 1988 mercury Sable, that car was a bitch! It was so bad at times that the engine would stop running at traffic lights, the best you could do was rev to keep it running a little while bad experience, and this doesn't include the money spent due to all the bad parts....
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Initial D..............:p

but i got my AE92 too........and its a B*tch to take care of....once you know the basic function on how cars work....its not fill gas and go no more

it gets stressful when you start to notice small problem every where around your car.....
in my case:

High RPM when idling,
tire losing pressure every week,
cracked header (reason why RPM is high)
RUST!
cracked windshield
dented driverside mirror,
AC dun work
broken radio attenna,
leaking trunk
rusted out fuel and brake line,
need new CV Boot.

i want to fix al these b4 i do any performance mods......
look for problem+do the math= $$$
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