Well, I am a former DSM guy...I just sold my very low 12 second AWD 90 TSI in favor of having a good, reliable car to get me through college. So, I picked up an 88 SR5 for $1200, has 180k on the clock. It has fresh brakes, full tune up, tires, timing belt, and is in fairly good shape. The engine runs BEAUTIFULLY, no problems whatsoever from it. My only problem is tht I went from a 350 AWHP car with full suspension to a 90 FWDHP car with 4 ragged-out struts. While I love getting 40 MPG on the highway as opposed to 18 tops in my Talon, I need at least some more handeling capabilities and power.
I have read many post in this forum before making this thread, and have a good basic idea of what to do. However, I didn't find too much info on what to do this or even 4AG engine but while keeping the carbuerator setup. Whether the car is fuel injected ro carbuerated it's not goign to match my Talon in any aspect, and I love the look of velocity stacks under the hood. Anyone have any good advice on what to do for a good carb car that is reliable but still fun? I'm not looking for too much power, just more than 90 HP....
There's not much you can do to the 4AF (not 4AG, only the GTS came with the 4AGE) I'd say other than exhaust and headers, custom built turbo (See Flashm) or maybe even upgraded carbs, there's nothing else.
Suspension you can find though. KYB, Tokico or Koni shocks and also B+G, Apex and Eibach springs among other brands.
well you bought it to save money? so you don't have alot of money to put into it I would assume...
Otherwise I would say pistions, valve terrain. You can get turbo kits or do it yourself. The old corolla's in general weren't built to be powerful cars. They were built to handle. Even the sr5 and sedans handle pretty decent for what they are. Cams. If you want you can disconnect the egr (plug the vacume line that comes out on the side pointing to the firewall. But your gas milage will go to shit. Some people advance the intake camshaft by one tooth...
and if you want to swap you can go 4age 16v (w/e version of that you want to use), 4agze (superchargered 4age), 4age 20v (silvertop or black top). The most power of course coming from the 4agze and 4age 20v in stock for at least.
and like ren says, the suspension options on these cars are pretty open... whether you stick with a standard non adjustable set up by replacing the springs and struts or you go fully adjustable is up to you.
Well, Money isn't too much of an issue...The main reason I bought the corolla is because I know that Toyota's are generally tanks, and was tired of racing on the weekends and fixing the Talon during the week...I wouldn't mind doing an engine swap, and am considering either the 4AGE swap or the 4AGZE, but am trying to figure out the cost of each swap. I am pretty mechanically inclined as I put two engines in my Talons and replaced the head on it 4 times, but these swaps seem pretty wiring intensive; and I hate wiring. As far as I can tell both of those engines would drop right in the AE92 chassis,and coupled with a good suspension setup the car would be pretty fun around the curves or at the autX course. I'm getting kind of tired of goign fast in a straight line...I just want a car with decnet power and good handeling now, but that is also reliable...any help on ,mor ein depth info on the swaps would be helpful, or on turbo-ing the 4AF even ( i have plenty of experience with turbos...lol)
if money isn't much of an issue then actually you can make a 4age have just as much power as your eagle talon was. I was told you can convert the ae92's into awd, although I am not totally sure if that works with the coupes... and it would be more reliable than the talon and easier to fix too! lol
If it was me I would use a 20v silvertop, with 4agze pistons, and a large turbo.
(with all the stuff that goes with it ECU, intercooler, clutch etc. etc.)
through a 4agze LSD transmission (e58).
Would make for an interesting car, and probably a 12sec pass.
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the 20v isn't the best engine.... it's the greatest stock engine but people complain it's hard to find parts for them not only to upgrade but to repair too. you could always build up that trd 20v race engine but hell for the price of it... not the best bang for your buck
the 4age 16v and 4af / 4afe are easier to mod, cheaper to find and replace and easier to put in because the wiring harness for those engines is already out for those cars...
Well, let me clarify, moeny isn't oo much of an issue because like with my Talon, I am willing to take my time with this car and do it right. In my last 12 sec Talon , I only had $4500 into the car, including what I paid for it. From what I can tell the 4AGE and the 4AGZE engines would be the relativiely easy engines to do swaps with. However, I am also willing to explore options with just a built-up, carbuerated 4AF ( although my 4AF is a single cam car...). Does anyone have any information or experience with that? Also, just out of curiosity, how much do shops usually charge to do a 4AG/ZE into these cars if I source all the parts? One more thing, where would I go to find engine parts, IE cam (SOHC ), pistons, carbs, etc, for these cars?
the 4age produces more power than the 4af... BUT for the hp the 4af / 4afe produces it actually produces more torque. That comes from the valves being at less of an angle and the cams being closer togerther and running off one pulley on the timing belt.
and the 4af is a DOHC. Produces 91 hp and 95 ft/lb of torque. I was looking on the net last summer, googling the stuff. Came up with cams, pistions, cranks and so on.
the quickest power gain is efi... The 4afe has more hp and toque than the 4af.
the 4ac is the SOHC which came in the ae86 sr5, 82 to 87 corolla sr5
the ae92's did as follows
ae92 sr5 had the 4af from 1988 - 1989, 4afe from 1990 - 1991
ae92 gts has 4age bigport 1988 - 1990, 4age smallport from 1990 - 1991
but the 4afe went well past the end of the production of our ae92. as did the 4age.
just incase you thinking of picking up a cheap car for the stuff you need for the swap.
oh also so you know the stock valves springs will cause the valves to float at 7000 rpm.
Yeah, more and more it looks like the only option is to just swap in a 4AGZE to have anywhere near the kind of power I 'm going to want for the type of driving I want to do...I wouldn't mind taking the car after the swap is done and the suspension is and going to the Dragon's Tail....
Well, I don't really want to turbo the engine. I really want to just have the car for fun now, slinging it around curves, driving to the best of my ability in autoX's. A supercharged engine would e more suited to that kind of driving, more power and torque down low as opposed to a turbo which makes power more top end. I'd only want about 200 FWHP, and by that I mean flywheel HP. Considering that the 4AGZE makes about 175 HP stock, bumping it up to 200 or so shouldn't prove too much of a problem....
That's exactly what I'm saying, I don't want to have to keep the revs up high to keep a turbo in it's efficiency range...a supercharger is for he down low go...If you had an engine that was built for low end torque,then I would agree that a NA engine would be better, but from what I can tell Toyotas need to be kept revved prety high to keep up their power...
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), pistons, carbs, etc, for these cars?
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