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Old 07-15-2006, 12:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi!

The rear passenger bearing on my 1998 corolla is starting to make a rubbing noise. I would like to replace the whole hub assembly. This is not ABS. I took the wheel off and rotated the axle hub to verify.

I am thinking (hoping) it is as easy as this?:

1. Jack up car, remove tire, put on stands blah blah
2. Remove brake drum assembly
3. Remove 4 bolts from hub to detach old hub
4. Install new hub assembly and torque down bolts (New bolts? have to find what to torque too.)
5. Install new hub bolts (tire)
6. Put drum brake assembly back on.
7. Install tire, remove stands & tighten up tire lug nuts
8. Nurse bleeding cuts on hands (I always seem to have at least one).

Parts:
1. Hub Assembly
2. Bolts for hub & tire
3. Band Aids.

Anything I am missing, is wrong, or should expect to run into? I only plan to replace one side (other side is not making noise.

I have moderate to good mechanical knowledge. I have done brakes numerous times (pads rotors, bleeding etc).

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Old 07-15-2006, 02:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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When you checked the bearing, did you take off the brake drum? If not, the drum could be warped and causing this rubbing noise. Wheel bearings usually growl or whine.

If the hub does not come off, you may need to back off the brake adjuster through the hole in the drum. When you put the brake drum back on the new hub, align this hole with the hole in the hub. Be sure to take notice to see if there is a very large O-ring that goes between the hub and backing plate.

Unless the manual states it is a requirement, use the old bolts. Can’t say what torque specs to use. Toyota has a section in the Camry Service Specs Manual (on-line at TN) that can help you determine the torque based on bolt type and diameter. Or someone else can post this.

Trying wearing latex rubber gloves to cut down on cuts and other abuse your hands gets. They work very well.

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Old 07-15-2006, 03:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I just helped a friend change both sides on his pontiac with no problems except we tore his abs line going into the hub off, he had disc brakes in back, Your main tool is an impact wrench it saved us about 1/3 the time...We also put new gas struts on while we had all the stuff off and broke a bolt off on each same sides of the strut towers which was a bitch to drill out!...good luck!
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Yes, it is the bearing, when I spin it with the brake drum off it sounds like it is rubbing, though I will recheck the brake drum again. I had a shop look at it and they quoted me about $400 to fix and I thought that was pretty high.

Thanks for the tips. I probably should get an impact wrench, though I am unsure if my little pancake style compressor will power it. I will have to see.


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When you checked the bearing, did you take off the brake drum? If not, the drum could be warped and causing this rubbing noise. Wheel bearings usually growl or whine.

If the hub does not come off, you may need to back off the brake adjuster through the hole in the drum. When you put the brake drum back on the new hub, align this hole with the hole in the hub. Be sure to take notice to see if there is a very large O-ring that goes between the hub and backing plate.

Unless the manual states it is a requirement, use the old bolts. Can’t say what torque specs to use. Toyota has a section in the Camry Service Specs Manual (on-line at TN) that can help you determine the torque based on bolt type and diameter. Or someone else can post this.

Trying wearing latex rubber gloves to cut down on cuts and other abuse your hands gets. They work very well.
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Old 07-15-2006, 05:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Usually when wheel bearings go there is movement in the wheel other than rolling. And they make a whine noise when driving around
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Old 07-17-2006, 07:54 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I replaced my fron bearing not long ago. It was a real F%$$# pain..

Sure it saved money, but the amount of work, it is heavy duty work, you can save yourslef some real hell by taking hte assmebly to a shop and pay them to press the old bearings/races out, and press the new bearings/races in. You can download the direction from either the library (you can access a citly library online database, or on autozone.com they have instructions for stuff. Or by the manual. But, it is heavy work, and you will need heavy tools. Breaker bars, heavy hammers, vises, Jacks, stands, Gloves, Torque wrench, and the list goes on and on. Save money but work very very hard for it...
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Old 07-17-2006, 08:27 AM   #7 (permalink)
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the rear bearing is a piece of cake remove the tire drum four bolts on the hub and you are done.
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Old 07-17-2006, 10:09 AM   #8 (permalink)
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yea same with my car, the rear is an assembly. Now the fronts... I wouldn't even attempt that, getting the bearing out on a fwd on the front is a HUGE pain. I like the wheel bearings on the fronts of most rwd come off with the rotor, grease them up and bam good for another while
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The fronts arent that much of a pain. A little patience goes along way with the fronts. Take the front hubs and new bearings to a machine shop and they should press them on for you for about $40-$50 a piece. So it costs $100 to have both done. Thats alot cheaper than $500-$600 for a shop to replace them. While you have the front hubs off, change your lower ball joint. Its SO simple to do. Its 3 nuts to remove and it pops out, the new one will come already assembled just tighten the 3 nuts down to spec and your finished. You might as well while your hubs are already going to be off. It will save much time later on if you go ahead and do it all at the same time.
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Old 09-24-2006, 01:46 AM   #10 (permalink)
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5 - 600... hate to live where you live, I was looking at around 200, but because I did my co-op there I got it alot cheaper
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Most shops have a labor rate of $75.00 per hr at a minimum. Some are as high as $90.00 per hr. The average per side to change the front hub is between $250 to $300 so unless you get a special deal you will pay about $500-$600 for both. Now if you do it yourself and have them pressed on, it will only end up costing about $100 for the pressing. Sure if you dont have to pay full price it will be cheaper. DUH! Thats anywhere.
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Most shops have a labor rate of $75.00 per hr at a minimum. Some are as high as $90.00 per hr. The average per side to change the front hub is between $250 to $300 so unless you get a special deal you will pay about $500-$600 for both. Now if you do it yourself and have them pressed on, it will only end up costing about $100 for the pressing. Sure if you dont have to pay full price it will be cheaper. DUH! Thats anywhere.
If you do it yourself, borrow the tools fron autozone and buy a heavy ass hammer and prepared to beat your arms off..

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If you do it yourself, borrow the tools fron autozone and buy a heavy ass hammer and prepared to beat your arms off..

I have taken a bunch of hubs off of corollas like yours and mine. They weren't that hard to get off. What kind of issues are you having with removing the hub?
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