4age swap question

[Ae86 Azn]

i have a 88 corolla seden with the 4a-f motor carburated.... i was wondering if its possible to swap a 4age or 4agze motor into this car? i mean the engine bay from the coupe and seden are the same or looks the same. im probelly gonna just stick to the stock 4age instead of the 4agze but im more concerned about just getting the motor put into the car and if the 4a-f transmission will fit the 4age motor.
ohh and if the manifolds will fit the motor?

[thespud]

Search button and Master Corolla sticky is your friend This has been disscussed millions of times in this forum.

But in answer to your questions, yes, yes and no.

[Ae86 Azn]

so yes the motor will fit weather its 4ageor 4agze but the 4a-f transmission wont fit the engine correct ?

[thespud]

Thats sort of right right. The motor will fit into the mounts without modification, will mate to any C-series manual or A-series Auto box, but the F(E) manifold will not fit the GE head...

[REN69]

With Toyota, the answer as to what will "fit" my car lies in the motor code, your car has an A-Series motor, as in 4"A"F so if you want to swap a motor in your car, anything with an "A" as the second digit in the motor code will fit.

Also the 4AGZE comes with an E-series transmission (E53 or E58, can't remember) which is a beefier transmission able to handle the extra torque that the motor puts out. The "C" series transmissions "will" fit the 4AGZE BUT depending on how you treat it, you may or may not blow it quick.

[diver9000]

FWD's answer to the RWD transmission info here on club4ag, All the information may not be the same in every country..
*C50 - AE92 SR5 5-speed, 2E engine, most 4AF cars(ae92 sedans)
*C52 - AE92 GT-S 5-speed, Corolla GTi, euro 4af AE92(different final drive), Early AE101, 7afe AE101(different final drive), 4AGE AE82's
*C56 - AE101 5-Speed, AE111
*C59 - 1ZZ 5-Speed
*C60 - Celica GT-S 7th gen, Corolla XRS
*C65M - SMT from MR2 Spyder.
*C150 - Echo
*C160 - AE111 Levin/Trueno 6 Speed(lsd and none lsd versions)
*E51 - AE92 4AGZE 5-Speed(Zenki)
*E52 - 89-91 Camry 2VZFE North America
*E53 - 92-93 Camry 3VZFE North America 5-Speed
*E58 - AE92 4AGZE 5-Speed(Kouki), AE101 4AGZE
*E153 - 97-00 Camry 1MZFE, 99-00 Solara 1MZFE
*S51 - 87-91, 92-96 3SFE and 5SFE Camrys
C50 North American AE102 version 93-97 Corolla 4AFE
1st: 3.545
2nd: 1.904
3rd: 1.310
4th: .969
5th: .815
final drive: 3.722
C52 North American AE102 version 93-97 Corolla 7AFE
1st: 3.166
2nd: 1.904
3rd: 1.310
4th: .969
5th: .815
final drive: 3.722
C52 88-91 AE92 4AGE
1st: 3.166
2nd: 1.904
3rd: 1.310
4th: 0.969
5th: 0.815
Final: 4.312
C56 North American Celica ZZT230 00-05, AE101, AE111 Levin/Trueno
1st: 3.166
2nd: 1.904
3rd: 1.392
4th: 1.031
5th: .815
final drive: 4.312

C59 North American Corolla ZZE110 98-02 1ZZFE
1st: 3.166
2nd: 1.904
3rd: 1.310
4th: .885
5th: .725
final drive: 3.722 03-UP ZZE130 Corolla ratios are the same except for a 3.941 final drive.
C60 All North American 2ZZGE(Celica, Matrix, Corolla XRS, Elise, *not Exige*)
1st: 3.166
2nd: 2.050
3rd: 1.481
4th: 1.166
5th: .916
6th: .725
final drive: 4.529
The 03-05 MR2 Spyder SMT(C65M)
1st: 3.166
2nd: 1.904
3rd: 1.392
4th: 1.031
5th: .815
6th: .725
final drive: 4.312(thanks naviles16v)
C150
1st: 3.545
2nd: 1.904
3rd: 1.310
4th: 0.969
5th: 0.815
Final: 3.526
C160 Levin/Trueno AE111 6 Speed
1st: 3.166
2nd: 2.050
3rd: 1.481
4th: 1.166
5th: 0.916
6th: 0.725
Reverse: 3.250
Final Drive: 4.529
E51 Levin/Trueno AFM 4AGZE
1st - 3.230
2nd - 2.045
3rd - 1.333
4th - 0.972
5th - 0.820
Final-3.933
E52 89-91 Camry 2VZFE North America
1st: 3.230
2nd: 2.045
3rd: 1.333
4th: .972
5th: .820
final drive: 3.933
E53 92-93 Camry 3VZFE North America
1st: 3.538
2nd: 2.045
3rd: 1.333
4th: 1.028
5th: .820
Final drive: 3.625
E58 Levin/Trueno MAP 4AGZE
1st - 3.214
2nd - 2.045
3rd - 1.333
4th - 0.972
5th - 0.820
Final-3.944
E153 97-00 Camry 1MZFE, 99-00 Solara 1MZFE
1st: 3.23
2nd: 1.913
3rd: 1.258
4th: .918
5th: .731
final drive: 3.933
S51 87-91, 92-96 Camry
1st: 3.538
2nd: 1.960
3rd: 1.250
4th: .945
5th: .731
final drive: 3.736(SV21)3.944(SXV10)
c150 - Fitted to 2e-elu (and other lower spec models) EP71 Starlets.
They ran from nov 1984 through to late 1990 I believe although on the lower spec EP80's I think the same box is used.
c152 - Fitted to 2e-telu (Turbo S Version) EP71 starlets. Slightly different ratios and they have a slightly stronger input shaft. There are some slight casing changes.
Both the c150 and c152 come non-lsd although one can be fitted. As far as I'm aware only TRD make these and they may be discontinued.
c52 - Fitted to 4e-fte (GT) EP82 starlets. Much stronger than the c15x's listed above, larger diff and gearsets. Very similar to 4age c52 internally although do have a different final drive ratio and casings. The bellhousing for example is a fair bit different.
Thanks to everyone that helped.

*****This is a previously written and released document from one of the car enthusiasts on club4ag.com. I just thought it might be helpful*****

[REN69]

Yep, good info. The C50, C52 and C56 should be direct fits, I believe the C59 from the 1ZZ motors is a liittle different around the bellhousing, but don't quote me on this.