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Old 09-08-2006, 05:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Prestone anti-freeze?

Can you use Prestone anti-freeze in toyota 98??? It says for any makes and models of car regardless of color. And I check and it contains ethylene glycol same as what the manual says.
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Old 09-08-2006, 06:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Toyota says not to mix it.
However, as far as I know, you can mix.
Just don't use any kind of GM Dexcool in it.

Why don't you just hit up the dealer for a bottle?
It's somewhat expensive, but it's not like you're going to go through it in a week.
AND, it IS better than the Prestone stuff.
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Old 09-08-2006, 07:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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How much does it cost?? Do they go by gal or liter?
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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go with the OEM stuff, better does cost more in this case.
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Old 09-08-2006, 11:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Use the color rule, if you have red use red, if you have green use green, plain and simple.
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Service manual (maintenance.pdf) says to use engine coolant which includes more than 50% ethylene-glycol and not more than 70%. As I know Prestone antifreeze contains 95% of ethylene-glycol.
Is Prestone product relevant for Toyota engines?
May someone check on the label if 95% is true?
What about Prestone antifreeze concentrate: how much of ethylene-glycol does it contain and how much of ethylene-glycol it will contain when used in 1:1 ratio with water?
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Old 03-26-2007, 03:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The issue is silicates. Red has little or no silicates, green has lots of it and Toyota is trying to eliminate silicates in the cooling system.

http://www.havoline.com/products/na/antifreeze.html

What is wrong with Dexcool? As I understand it, the manufacturers of Dexcool were released from litigation as their product delivered superior performance as promised. As I understand it, the issue was poor cooling system design by GM that allowed air into the cooling system and causing the gel problems.
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Old 03-26-2007, 05:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by alltracman78
Toyota says not to mix it.
However, as far as I know, you can mix.
Just don't use any kind of GM Dexcool in it.

Why don't you just hit up the dealer for a bottle?
It's somewhat expensive, but it's not like you're going to go through it in a week.
AND, it IS better than the Prestone stuff.
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Old 03-26-2007, 07:08 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Here's the deal on coolants: The old green stuff was loaded with silicates. The silicates coat the entire inside of the cooling system to prevent corrosion and electrolysis. The downside to silicates is that it is abrasive and can wear out seals on the water pump. It also doesn't last very long. Plus, changing the coolant is the most overlooked maintenance item by consumers. So manufacturers started looking for new style coolant. The orange stuff from GM is called Dex-Cool and it is an organic acid technology (OAT). The advantage is its long life--150,000 miles or 5 years. The downside is that the organic acid takes a long time to take effect to prevent rust. So many Japanese manufacturers started using a hybrid organic acid technology (HOAT) that supposedly last almost as long, takes effect much sooner, and is easier on plastic seals and gaskets. If your Corolla has long life coolant in it, it's of the HOAT variety. The aftermarket suppliers also offer HOAT and color it yellow. You NEVER want to mix HOAT and the green stuff, or you'll pay for it in water pumps. Bottom line? I'd buy a gallon of red from Toyota and mix it 50/50 with distilled water. It will cost you another $10 over the aftermarket stuff.
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I had the Toyota red coolant in mine.... then flushed out the entire system and refilled it with the green stuff, didn't notice any difference at all, I'm pretty sure you can change coolant types without any adverse effects

Just don't mix two different colors together
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In my case i have noticed the green coolant doesn't seem to last as long like maybe a year and its looking gungy. As for mixing the dealer said its an absolute no-no and not to do it period, but they did say its ok to use the green stuff but to rinse and back flush the system before filling to prevent mixing the two types. but on a side note if it specifies long life coolant don't convert to green stuff....
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I change my coolant (yellow now) twice a year (five or six times already this year because of a stupid aftermarket waterpump that wouldnt seal, and ended up going to the dealership for an oem pump), I do a lot of city driving, I would love to use toyota coolant but around here $21.00 a gallon is out of my price range when I can get the prestone for $5.77 a gallon(Love you Wal-Mart) and dilute it my self with distilled water for $.45 a gallon (Love you evern more Wal-Mart). So pretty much I can change my coolant a lot for the price of changing it once with Toyota coolant. I'm not saying the Prestone is good, but cost is definetly a factor here, and the stuff works, and works well for the length I use it.
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I had the Toyota red coolant in mine.... then flushed out the entire system and refilled it with the green stuff, didn't notice any difference at all, I'm pretty sure you can change coolant types without any adverse effects

Just don't mix two different colors together
I've done the same thing on my vehicles. I flush out the factory coolant and add standard green. Since this isn't a GM forum, I won't go off on Dexcool, but I've seen what an engine looks like after 150k miles on Dexcool and wasn't happly

My educated guess would be that more engine failures are the result of a neglected cooling system rather than oil issues, so it's important to keep up on the maintenance. I change my coolant every 30k miles (2 years), so I stick with the standard stuff. Never had an issue with plain ole green anitfreeze.
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