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Old 10-04-2006, 04:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Oil discussion continued

I will see what I can do about finding some other articles about oil to share with those interested. I found a pretty lengthy one in Cycle magazine, they did a lot of different tests. Amsoil was included. But it was hard to see the comparison of the oils tested (at least on line). It may have been better when it was printed.

As for companies exagerating to sell a product, your right, some will do that, maybe most, but certainly not all. I know the products we sell where I work do exactly what the literature says they will do and the vast majority of our customers are very pleased with our product.

You have to understand that by exagerating the benefits of a product, your setting up the customer for disappointment. A disappointed customer is not a return customer. Most companies understand this. Some don't care and keep exagerating it anyway. Some do care and will tell you exactly what the product does. And yet others will do the opposite and maybe not include all the info on what the product can or will do for them which creates a very happy customer that will return and tell others about their experiences.

It is my feeling that Amsoil falls somwhere between the latter 2.

While the test was paid for by Amsoil, it was run by an independent lab. They are showing the actual test results. If Amsoil were to lie about these results, they would be setting themselves up for a lawsuit from the lab that did the test, or from anyone else that may also run a test and find the results to be false. This would be an open and shut case in a court of law as everything is documented. So while I can't say for sure that they didn't lie about the results, for these reasons I highly doubt it.

Amsoil has built a solid reputation over the years. I have yet to hear or see a single negative thing about the company (other than opinions on how they market- I'm getting to that) from anyone who has actually used the products.

As for marketing. There are some select stores that carry the products. But you will never find it in a major chain store that is corporately owned. Against the policies. A franchised chain store however can retail the products. There is farm store near me that sells it. Actually my sponsor is the one that signed them up.

Why Multi Level marketing. Because while most people in the world are money hungry greedy b******s, not all of them are. For example, the CEO of Costco (a major buyers club like Sam's Club) only makes about $400,000 a year. A very modest income considering the size of the company. And they have a very low rate of turnover because the employees are very well compensated in both wages and benefits. I believe that Al Amituzio is the same kind of person. He wanted to create an opportunity for the average American to build a solid business without needing a lot of capital. He has had many opportunities to sell his business, but he refuses to do because he has made a commitment to his distributers and he plans on keeping his commitment. This kind of person is rare in the world, but they do exist.

To answer the question that Flasmn asked at one point, Why is he suddenly seeing so many people using and talking about Amsoil. The answer is relatively simple really. Synthetic oil in general is becoming "self evident" In other words the general public is finally becoming aware of the benefits of synthetic (whether or not you believe them to be true isn't the point) and they are starting to buy it more. There are also more synthetics on the market now than there used to be. And they are starting to advertise it on T.V. All of these things combined cause people to shop around. An example of this is the VCR. It was invented in 1965. But it took about 10 years b4 people really started to hear about them, let alone buy one. Amsoil (as most MLM companies do) leaves the marketing up to the distributers.

So what if you want it and don't know where to get it. Try the website. It's all there and very easy to order.

I'll search for some independent articles. and post links when I find them.

Let's do everyone a favor here and try to keep this one from getting argumentitive as the others have



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Old 10-04-2006, 07:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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omg stop making all these oil threads FFS!
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Old 10-04-2006, 07:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey tnmk,
Lets just fix your car for now, we can talk about oil next month. Have you come up with anything new. Compression test results or anything?
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Freak, you are just that aren't you, a freak. in the other thread yu won't shut up on the issue and here your complaining.
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this is like the 3rd or 4th thread on oil in the past 2 weeks... I don't care if we talk about it, but don't make more and more. Besides it's not a discussion with you, you just tell everyone DO their research of they tell you anything you disagree with.
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Fuck oils, I'm using diesel in my next oil change, supposedly it lubricates valvetrain and cylinders very well.
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well hey it frees up piston rings on a half disassembled engine .
I like your other example. turn your trunk into a water tank, and have a jet spray water into your engine
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Fuck oils, I'm using diesel in my next oil change, supposedly it lubricates valvetrain and cylinders very well.
Wouldn't matter. You're so stupid you counldn't find the filler hole anyway.
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errrr? did you miss the joke?
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Wouldn't matter. You're so stupid you counldn't find the filler hole anyway.
If you had been following this story line from jump I think you would understand where this came from. Thats not cool dude.

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I know I cant find the dipstick hole, if theres no hairs around it.

I think it might be a good time to the thread, this is starting to be non-sense once again.
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For the record it's only the 2nd thread on oil. One was debating the article oil myths and facts, this is the second.

The one about my car burning oil was not intended to be a discussion on oil, but on my car burning it. We got way off topic. I started this one so I could get back on topic on the burning oil thread so I can get my car fixed.

But it's kinda fun seeing freak get bashed. Sure is a glutton for punishment.
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you and diver bashing me? AHAHAHAH I just laugh at you because you agured with myself and flashmn about the flush for so long. then you come back and say "I spoke to soon" lol
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Fuck oils, I'm using diesel in my next oil change, supposedly it lubricates valvetrain and cylinders very well.
Hey that was my idea,

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