what swap?

[Beemik]

Ok last week i was driving just outside the city limit and hit an 80km/h there was a bit of traffic so i wasnt going too fast. and to make a long story short i got passed. not just passed... smoked. he pulled out from behind me like he was changing lanes and it was only 2 lanes. he touched the gas shot passed me and let out what sounded like a 10psi blow off as he pulled in in front of me.(but its really hard to tell what psi is blowing off)
So im thinking of swaping. from my 4afe in my 95 ae101 corolla to... well i dont know? i would like to have a cool 200hp at the wheels and i wanted to get that from my current engine but you are all right its way too expensive and time consuming to do that work to a 4afe.
So i was thinking of a 4agze stripped of sc and turbo it to 12-14psi which is what i understand the stock setup will allow(injectors,ecu,map....)
Now im going to want to go the most cost effective route. I would like to get a 4agze from a jdm 101 corolla but they are far more expensive.
i have thought about a 20valve but they are best as n/a engines and require too much work to boost over the 200whp mark(rods,pistons,ecu, not to mention the rebuild bill).
I guess what im saying is iv done some reading and decided to ask about the 4agze because i found it to be the most economical choice for power to $dollar$. pls correct me if im wrong and point me in the right direction. Also alot i dont know like will the 4agze run on front wheel drive, what difficulties does one suspect of the drop, if i need new trany what one and where?
So really i dont know anything and was hoping to milk ou guys and girls for any and all info you might be able to provide!!

[Kr0n1k]

Actually, according to the "gurus" on this forum, all internals of the silvertop 20v are the same as the GZE, minus the pistons. I have seen forged pistons for the silvertop floating around on eBay every once in awhile, but have never really found a retailer that carries them. You could also have them custom made. Economical? Probably not, although some of the prices I've seen for 20V Silvertops in Canada are pretty damn cheap, even in CAN dollars. GZE's will be just fine in FWD, since all of them are transverse, wether mounted in a Corolla or MR2. The GZE is obviously built for boost right out of the gate, but the abilities of the ECU are greatly contested, I've heard anywhere from 10 to 15 psi. Transmission's are a whole other story, I would assume the stock GZE transmission will hold up, but that's for someone else to answer. I'll tell you this much, if someone would develop some mounts for the 3sgte into our cars, I would say that's your winner right there. At least going by Toysport, the GZE and 3S are the same price for a cut of the same generation, maybe you should look into getting mounts made up, and find someone good at wiring. People won't be passing you with a touch of the gas, that's for sure. You could try this site www.phoenixtuning.com and get ahold of Dr. Tweak. He has done a 3S swap into an A engined Celica, and says our cars are perfect canidates. Group buy on mounts? Either way, hopefully someone will give you some more information, but be prepared for directions to the search button.

[punter]

Easiest, and most cost effective way (IMO) is to buy a GZE front clip.
That way you get the gze box, axels, brakes, ecu, loom etc. etc.

The older afm gzes like turbos better, but either will be great and make plent of power.

The E series box, which all gzes come with, is extremely strong will handle 400hp+ so no worries there.

There are 3 engine mounts that will need to be changed. (front clip will come with them)

[Beemik]

thanks so far guys for the info id like to hear a little more about this swap. but so far you fellas are saying that other then the mounts this should be pretty straight forward if i have all the parts like trans,harness,sensors,ecu...
this is starting to sound like a real posibility

[Kr0n1k]

Don't forget though, you'll have to have a lot of the turbo stuff fabricated, there are no "kits" for the 4AG. Manifold, FMIC piping, down pipe all have to be made up, and maybe some other stuff. I think the main thing always left out when talking about a turbo upgrade is an upgraded fuel pump. The site above also offers rear disc conversions for the 101, which would also be an upgrade to look at.

[diver9000]

If you are going to drop in a gze, you are going to want disc brakes. You need to talk to Dr. Tweak about what is involved. You might even see if he has the time to do the swap for you. That might be your most cost effective bet.

[micro214_kp61]

best bang for buck on AE101 = 3SGTE

(i know a lot of you are laughing right now but if you add up to get to 200whp on a 1.6L you'll spending more then swapping a stock 3SGTE. plus you've got toyota OEM reliability.)

you don't even need to touch anything internally. with good injectors and proper tuning you're in the 200whp territory. 1.6L on an AE101 if you ask me is not enough for that big body. for performance reason, go with a 2.0L even a 3S-GE.

the MAP GZE internals are identical of the 2nd Gen 20V ST minus the pistons. the AW11 GZE has different internals than the ST.

Paradise Racing carries the forged pistons for the boosted 20V. Luis from Paradise had ARIAS custom made them for him.

[diver9000]

What about the motor mounts? does he make those or how would you go about that part of the installation?

[micro214_kp61]

Originally Posted by diver9000

What about the motor mounts? does he make those or how would you go about that part of the installation?

you can adapt the Celica motor mounts to the Corolla. if you can't figure out the mounting problem then the 3SGTE swap is definitely not for you. lo, j/k!

[Kr0n1k]

Thats what I was sayin' Micro! 3SGTE would be nice, nice and fast. What tranny though? Obviously the MR2 would be your best bet, but if you got an ST185 or ST205 clip, would you be better off with a V6 Camry tranny (if you could find one)? I dunno about Beemik, but the 3S is definetly the way I would go, espically if you end up next to those pesky EVOs or STis on the freeway. Maybe I'll just order a clip... well, after the suspension and brake upgrades. Oh yea, more infor about the mounts if you got it.

[punter]

GZE's, MR2's, and V6 camrys all use E series boxes so yes get one of them, would probably need custom axesls though. (GZE bellhousing is very different)

And yes a 3S is a very good idea.

[diver9000]

Punter.......Could he run the 3sgte with a corolla gts tranny?