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Old 10-19-2006, 12:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone had experience with this brand of headers? I purchesed a set and am wondering how they are as far as install since the site doesnt realy say much about the install process...i have a 1993 toyota corolla 1.6L 4A-FE engine...
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Old 10-19-2006, 01:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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reasonably straight forward on my 7A-FE (1.8) Only thing was one of my AC lines was just touching the stud for my 02 sensor had to bend it forward a bit, do this extremely carefully or you will wreck the lines, also i had to grind like a 1/32 off the the flange at the outermost passenger side, may not be any issues on a 1.6 too.
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Old 10-19-2006, 06:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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my ebay header dropped right in and fit like a glove, only $100 to my door and its real stainless!
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Old 10-19-2006, 06:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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my ebay header dropped right in and fit like a glove, only $100 to my door and its real stainless!
Got a pic?
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Old 10-19-2006, 09:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Headers on a 7afe/4afe are very simple. There is plenty of room to work around, and not much in the way for it to touch against. Like said above, if any modification is needed, its minor like pushing a line out of the way.
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Old 10-19-2006, 09:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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just to remind you of what stock is.


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Just wondering why you put the header on, but not a catback?

That header is the exact same one I bought, looks good. I don't know why you heat wrapped it, it looked nice with that finish on it.
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This bolt looks like a pain to get to. Maybe if you remove that engine hoise support, you can slip a wrench down in there.

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yea it doesnt look too tough to get at if u remove the engine hoise and use a small ratchet...
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I don't remember but i think i had to remove my alternator, probably depends if you have the delco or denso?
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This bolt looks like a pain to get to. Maybe if you remove that engine hoise support, you can slip a wrench down in there.

no, just swing the alternator up out ogf the way. i did not have to bend or move anything once it was installed.

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Just wondering why you put the header on, but not a catback?

That header is the exact same one I bought, looks good. I don't know why you heat wrapped it, it looked nice with that finish on it.
because the thinwall stainless puts out ALOT of heat. now the hood of my car is actually cooler than it was stock!
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yea it doesnt look too tough to get at if u remove the engine hoise and use a small ratchet...
i used a 14mm wrench.

http://www.corolland.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=18794&view=findpost&p=12775 0 theres the how-to.

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its on.

i didnt drive it much, it was getting dark and theres no where near by where i feel safe zooming around much. it seems to have lessened the fade at the end of the upper rpms, im not sure if its because ive been soo light footed with the right pedal, but it does feel faster when i plant it. it looks soooo out of place with my dingy engine tho, oh well! its turning a nice sandy color right now and is still shiny, i made sure to wash it down with brake cleaner to remove any oils and to wipe it down so finger prints wouldnt become permanent.


the old exhaust removal was ALOT easier than i anticipated. 1st i loosened everything that i could loosen, then ground the heads off the midpipe to cat flange (the bolts/nuts had rusted to one peice with the flange and themselves). once the heads were cut off the rest of the bolt just dropped right out and the flanges came right apart! the rest of the hardware came off easily, except the stock midpipe to manfold nuts. i had to put my electric impact gun on those to get them loose. the manifold to head nuts were all easy except for the one behind the alternator, you need to remove the alternator tensioner assembly from under it and swing the alternator up to get at that nut with a box end 14mm wrench. then you can use the open end once its broken loose. now is a good time to replace the alterator belt since you just took it off to swing the alternator up out of the way. once the stock stuff is off just swap the new into place with the correct gaskets (mine came with gaskets, tho the manifold to head gasket was poorly fit, its flat now but i had to double the torque to 50lb/ft to get the gasket to push flat). everything else i just tightened till it felt tight then reinstalled the alternator with the new belt, tensioned the belt, double checked everything, wiped it down with brake clean and fired it up.

at idle it sounds pretty much the same, save for just a little bit of a hollow whistle (think wind through a window) at the tail pipe. when the engine is revved it sounds a little more "racey" with no rasp (atleast none i could hear). for $100 i dont feel dissappointed yet, im going to pull my PCM fuse so that it can re-learn the fuel trims with the new oxygen sensor and make any adjustments in relation to the change in exhaust flow. i'll track my fuel mileage and see if the header made it more or less. i have a 150 mile drive friday and back on sunday to track highway mileage.
i've seen no drop in milage btw.

i didnt get a full exhaust because i didnt want one, even removing the rear muffler wasnt exactly by my own choice. i got rear ended and that was the cheapest way to get the car going again. its actually a little annoying at times, but with the header dropping that muffler further enhanced its pull at the higher rpms.
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Hey Bitter,
You got a nice header and pipe. I saw your compressor in the background. What kind of cfm output do you have with it? Will it push an impact and what brand is it?
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You got a nice header and pipe. I saw your compressor in the background. What kind of cfm output do you have with it? Will it push an impact and what brand is it?
$100, around 4SCFM at 90psi, and yea it'll run an impact, but not as well as the shops air supply, its just some generic brand. its enough to run some air tools like an impact or a ractchet, dregreaser gun, blow gun, airbrush. but it lacks the capacity and flow to really work well, but for $100 i dont mind it.
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Hey you said u had to remove your alternator...how was it getting it back on...the belt cant have any give to it so im just wondering how much of a pain it was to put back on? I'm willing to do so but am i going to need something/one to help me get it back in place on the belt?
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