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Old 11-26-2006, 10:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Timeing belt concern

1993 4AFE, 103K miles on it and im just wondering if there are any signs before the belt goes, or when u know it needs to be replaced...i know that you are "suppose" to get it done at 100k, but im realy tight on cash with the holiday season on its way...any hints?
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Old 11-26-2006, 11:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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there is no way to tell when.... that's why they tel you every 60,00 miles. I had one go to 140,000 miles.. but it could go tomorrow in in 2 mor years..
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Old 11-26-2006, 11:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Loosen the top portion of the timing cover and check for hairline cracks in the belt. "retiredat44" is right --- they're "supposed" to be replaced at every 60K, but my '94 3.0L belt is over 100K and my '98 Camry's about 10K overdue. The deciding factor for me is whether it's an interference motor or not, and how much a hassle it'll be if I'm stranded.
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Old 11-27-2006, 06:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If you're doijng it yourself it's not very expensive. $15.00 for the belt. But the tensioner is $60.00. But that's only if it's not rotating freely. It's a fair amount of work though to do it.
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If you're doijng it yourself it's not very expensive. $15.00 for the belt. But the tensioner is $60.00. But that's only if it's not rotating freely. It's a fair amount of work though to do it.
The tensioner is also a gamble, as I think they should be replaced with a new belt. Just in case. And it's a real pain in the ass to replace. If it were in a normal car with room, but these cars have no room and are miserable to work on.

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Old 11-27-2006, 08:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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That depends on how much your time, and engine are worth to you. Its a fairly simple, but time consuming process to change out the timing belt. Yes, 60,000 miles is the proper interval to change the timing belt.
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Old 11-28-2006, 02:05 AM   #7 (permalink)
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there isn't any way to tell since the car runs like a champ until it does break, i have about 225xxx on my timing belt before it went out, and it went in the middle of the street.. baisicly just maintain it and make sure change it regularly (every 60k is good like they said). the parts are cheap, but it's a pain in the ass, labor would cost about 300 bucks while parts only cost about 100.
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Old 11-28-2006, 12:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
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there isn't any way to tell since the car runs like a champ until it does break, i have about 225xxx on my timing belt before it went out, and it went in the middle of the street.. baisicly just maintain it and make sure change it regularly (every 60k is good like they said). the parts are cheap, but it's a pain in the ass, labor would cost about 300 bucks while parts only cost about 100.
the F$$# timing cover and water pump crap is right up against the inside fender! Couldn't have been designed worse for repair. At least on my 1989 Corolla. I will never ever have a car with the engine shoved in there like that again, what a F$$## nightmare to work on.



sorry, but it does piss me off..
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My highlander interval is 80K miles. My old 85 Toyota Supra, I change the original at 100K miles, its interval is was 60K miles. Online I found a bunch of them with broken timing belts 100-110K miles. Obviously every engine is slightly different, but your driving on borrowed time.
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Old 11-28-2006, 04:25 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Its not a hard job to do. It is a bit of a pain due to the tight space, however you should be able to do it within about 1 1/2-2 hours with standard tools. If you have air tools it will go much quicker.
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Old 11-28-2006, 05:47 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I agree with diver. It's only a pain because it's time consuming, but I don't know about 1 1/2 - 2 hrs. I think it would take a little longer.

Call a shop, find out the labor rate, get an estimate and divide by the labor rate plus a little more time for not having all of the necessary tools and experience, then you'll get a good idea.
A manual would be bery helpful.
I was lucky and found mine on e-bay for $15.00 with shipping.
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Old 11-28-2006, 06:02 PM   #12 (permalink)
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a corolla isnt even hard to do. Try a car with a much bigger engine and almost the same size engine compartment.
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Old 11-29-2006, 02:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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It's also a good idea to change the camshaft and crankshaft oil seals while you're at it..
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Old 11-29-2006, 04:17 PM   #14 (permalink)
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It's also a good idea to change the camshaft and crankshaft oil seals while you're at it..
there are no oil seals to change for the timing belt,, there are only covers..
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:17 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Not for the timing belt itself, but there are oil seals. It would be a good idea, while you have the timing belt cover off to go ahead and change them, especially the crank seal.
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