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Old 11-28-2006, 09:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1/4 times - so-so

Cams still havent come in yet, but I still ran it anyway. These times are from GTECH, so they are a general reading, but you get the point.

I have wheelhop like crazy, this car could really benefit from a lsd.

Well my 1/4 times were in the 15.1 range @91 mph, 60' at 2.44-2.6. I can't launch this thing anymore, torque is gone.

I was running low 16s at 83-85 mph when it just had an intake (short ram).

If I could get the tires planted and stop spinning, im sure i could shave .2 seconds off easily.

I think my strut bar is keeping it to stiff when launching and it causing the wheels to hop rather than flex,stop and grab.

btw, i ran 89 octane, and it did not know whatsoever with higher compression. I would still recomned 93 if you can get it though. It really likes 108 octane race gas, but its like 20 bucks a gallon, so it hardly ever gets it.

not bad from an f head car. It runs the same as newer si civic 6 speeds.
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Old 11-28-2006, 09:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I know it's a reccomendation to the Supra guys to remove the front sway bar when at the strip, but that may not be a good idea, seeing as a Supra is RWD....
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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hmmmmm....i say get on a track yo! get a dyno in too
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Old 11-29-2006, 07:31 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Me? I've gotta go the the mechanic first.
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Old 11-29-2006, 08:32 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I know it's a reccomendation to the Supra guys to remove the front sway bar when at the strip, but that may not be a good idea, seeing as a Supra is RWD....
The sway bar removal to help weight transfer to the rear tires. It would make his traction issues worse. In general, usually stiffer shocks/springs/struts will help with wheel hop.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:14 AM   #6 (permalink)
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wheelhop can come when you dont have enough torque, the tire tries to break loose, but there isnt enough power to keep it from grabbing hold, so it sort of bounces back. Wheelhop is slower, because you're partially skidding the tire, there isnt grip.....
As for timing with a G-tech, we got a 12 sec quartermile with my corolla, credibility is something out of this world.

bottom line, 1/4th mile with a naturally aspirated corolla =
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:42 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I know with the Tiburons the best way to reduce wheel hop is to get stiffer motor mounts. Apparently alot of the vibration comes all the way down the line. Couldn't hurt.

That's insane that you're running low 15's on a 4AFE. And you ran 16's with just an intake? WOW...I need to get a 5 speed into my stepdaughter's '94....
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:21 PM   #8 (permalink)
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^hmmmmm.....i dont know about that..........running on the streets with a gtech is way different, i heard the older gtech dont work as well as the newer gtechs, also the tracks is way stickier. Theothercarolla, you should run it at the tracks one day, and get a dyno to see where you stand, im very curious
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Old 11-30-2006, 08:19 AM   #9 (permalink)
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also the tracks is way stickier.
That depends on the track, my local track on street nights usually is slippery for traction. The track rentals I have been to are usually really sticky.
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Old 11-30-2006, 10:46 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Oh didn't catch that it was with a Gtech. Those things are almost useless...they never match with the track.
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Old 12-01-2006, 09:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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well mine is a newer model and is very consistent. when I ran my camaro, i ran the gtech also, and it was always within .1 of a second. Not exact, but a very general reading.

I know an N/A F head car isn't exactly a 1/4 performer, but its just interesting to see how much stuff you can juice out of an economy car.

Down the road I may prep the motor for boost, but im terrible at electronics, fuel maps, and pressure readings with higher than 1 bar, everything essiential to an efficient turbo setup.
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Old 12-02-2006, 09:02 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Cams still havent come in yet, but I still ran it anyway. These times are from GTECH, so they are a general reading, but you get the point.

I have wheelhop like crazy, this car could really benefit from a lsd.

Well my 1/4 times were in the 15.1 range @91 mph, 60' at 2.44-2.6. I can't launch this thing anymore, torque is gone.

I was running low 16s at 83-85 mph when it just had an intake (short ram).

If I could get the tires planted and stop spinning, im sure i could shave .2 seconds off easily.

I think my strut bar is keeping it to stiff when launching and it causing the wheels to hop rather than flex,stop and grab.

btw, i ran 89 octane, and it did not know whatsoever with higher compression. I would still recomned 93 if you can get it though. It really likes 108 octane race gas, but its like 20 bucks a gallon, so it hardly ever gets it.

not bad from an f head car. It runs the same as newer si civic 6 speeds.
It's doubtful that with an NA '95 corolla/prism you would really run a 15.1 1/4 mile. It will be closer to 16 or 17 seconds in real life on a real track.

If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. My Buick Century ran a 12.1 1/4 mile according to teh G-tech, it is a total racecar too Maybe we meet at the track, my old Buick Century and your badass Prism
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hmmmm well i have got to say low torque dosent necessarily mean more wheelhop, before some solid motormounts and tranny mounts, i wheel hopped sooo bad twice that my windshield wipers came on, and i was dynoed at 328 fwtq.... yes the only answer is prolly stiffer bushings, solid motor and trans mounts, but you will sacrifice the ride quality, not as much as one may think though... Front wheel drive plays a big role in wheel hop, with RWD there is much more weight keeping those tires planted..... you ran a 15.1 NA?? definitely not right, race the buick! The g-tech always seemed cool, but i would dread all the wiring.... by the way i am better than average driver and i ran the 13.3 with 298 FWHP, actually putting 298 to the ground... with weight reduction. With Right wheel drive i would have been into the 12's no problem... dont think i could take that century though.... lol

if the NA corolla has lift i could see a 15.1 maybe..., but that was new in like 04 or something right?
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Old 12-03-2006, 06:24 PM   #14 (permalink)
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It's doubtful that with an NA '95 corolla/prism you would really run a 15.1 1/4 mile. It will be closer to 16 or 17 seconds in real life on a real track.

If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. My Buick Century ran a 12.1 1/4 mile according to teh G-tech, it is a total racecar too Maybe we meet at the track, my old Buick Century and your badass Prism
..uh?? its not stock.. hell i ran a 16.4 or something when it was stone stock, the camaro wouldnt start so I bracket raced it that night and took 3rd.

So id say a high compression, full bolt on motor could possibly run 1 sec quicker in the 1/4.

sure your buick could runa 12.... in the 1/8th.
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Old 12-04-2006, 07:20 PM   #15 (permalink)
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sure your buick could runa 12.... in the 1/8th.
Dude I was being sarcastic, that stupidass meter thiing said my Buick could do a 12, but it obviously could not. Just like the G-tech meter said your Corolla ran a 15, which it obviously did not.

You have wasted a ton of money on a dead end project. My XRS ran a REAL 15.0 in the quarter mile stock. And it is JUST a Corolla. I can't imagine spending thousands of dollars on a Corolla (or any other car) and only have dreams of breaking into the 14s.

I'm not trying to knock you that hard, but it is so hard not to when you post on a car forum and argue about the legitimacy of your stupid little G-tech meter and your badass racecar.

Go run a real time, then post your slip here (after editing it in photoshop to make it better of course). Maybe you'll get taken seriously then. Better yet go do an autocross race, that really is a good test of a car/driver combination.

Seriously though my Buick ran a 12 second G-tech quarter mile, your Corolla ran a 15, are you really 3 seconds slower than a Buick?
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