Where can i find a short shifter for a ae92 for cheep?

[Darien18]

iam looking for a short throw shifter for my 88 corolla 1.6l
I was looking at ebay and they have it for 93^ and up so yea
any ideas thanks

[Chucez]

I think the going rate is about $100 - 150 for a short shifter. You might want to try Toysport in Torrance. It also never hurts to post in the classifieds section - we got lots of people here with access to those parts.

You could also try Cabe Toyota down in Long Beach.

[Bitter]

cant cut and rethread a stock shifter to the height you want?

[ghost_ryder35]

Originally Posted by Bitter

cant cut and rethread a stock shifter to the height you want?

LOL. thats not a short shifter, that is a shorter shifter. a short shifter reduces the shift lengh from any said gear to the next so the actual travel is shorter in distance enabling you to shift faster so in essence your car is faster on the track cutting it down to make it shorter only makes the shifter arm itself shorter with no gain what so ever.

[Chucez]

Originally Posted by ghost_ryder35

LOL. thats not a short shifter, that is a shorter shifter. a short shifter reduces the shift lengh from any said gear to the next so the actual travel is shorter in distance enabling you to shift faster so in essence your car is faster on the track cutting it down to make it shorter only makes the shifter arm itself shorter with no gain what so ever.

I completely agree with you, however, the AE92 gear shifter could be a little shorter. With that said, the short shifter from TRD solves that problem as well... (this is just me being a post whore... I'm sorry).

[REN69]

I agree with ghost_ryder35 a short shifter is not "short" because it's shorter in length, it's because the shifter ball is positioned to make the throws "shorter".

The AE92 TRD short shifter is not shorter, it's pretty much the same height as stock, the ball is mounted in a different place though AND the shifter leans towards the driver on the LEFT side of the car (JDM yo!)

[Bitter]

i know, i was just dorking around. have you looked on ebay? find out what other toyota cars your shifter assembly is shared with and then play toyota legos!

[freakinbox]

the trd shifter and knob make the shifter taller than stock. a short shifter is technically a shorter shifter... a short throw shifter on the other hand is that...

[REN69]

I remember reading somewhere that the Celica short shifter would fit the AE92s, you may want to look into that. I think the ST182 Celicas were the ones, can't remember.

[Darien18]

Whould this fit!

http://www.procarparts.com/store-det...=onlinestoreDB

[goooopher]

How would cutting it down not make it shorter? The throw would be shorter...the top of the arm will travel a shorter dist from gear to gear...think about it...if u have a 2 foot shift arm its going to take longer to shift than a 6 inch shift arm...theoretically what you guys are saying you could get a longer shift arm that acts as a short shifter by somehow shortening the throw between gears...i dont know alot about transmitions but doesnt the dist that the shifter needs to travel between gears have more to do with how the gear box is setup? If u wanted a shorter throw wouldnt u need to rework the gearbox? I may sound like a total idiot by makeing this comment, but even if ur not useing car thinking and lets just say use basic geometry...wont cutting the top of the shifter make it a shorter throw? My had will travel a shorter dist between throws with my shifter cut then with it stock thus letting me shift faster? I know i shift much quicker with my shifter cut down now then before...

[Chucez]

Originally Posted by goooopher

How would cutting it down not make it shorter? The throw would be shorter...the top of the arm will travel a shorter dist from gear to gear...think about it...if u have a 2 foot shift arm its going to take longer to shift than a 6 inch shift arm...theoretically what you guys are saying you could get a longer shift arm that acts as a short shifter by somehow shortening the throw between gears..

If you think about a lever or a teeter-totter, this will make sense. The short throw shifter changes the fulcrum (or the pivot point) on which the shift lever's range of motion revolves around.


The diagram at the top is that with a short throw shifter.

The diagram in the middle is the standard shifter.

The diagram at the very bottom is a shortened shift lever.




So if you look at the top shifter, it's range of motion is far more limited compared to the other two, which means that the total distance that the lever will have to pivot is far less compared to the bottom two.

I just hope that the drawings clarify this - it's pretty late for me so maybe tomorrow I'll be able to explain it more clearly.

As for the gear box modifications - those are unnecessary because the kits typically add blocks that modify the distance that the linkage will have to travel (please correct me if i'm wrong). Also, in RWD transmissions there are bushings and spacers included in the kits that account for the distance from gear to gear.

[REN69]

+1 for the MS paint skills.

[ghost_ryder35]

Originally Posted by goooopher

How would cutting it down not make it shorter? The throw would be shorter...the top of the arm will travel a shorter dist from gear to gear...think about it...if u have a 2 foot shift arm its going to take longer to shift than a 6 inch shift arm...theoretically what you guys are saying you could get a longer shift arm that acts as a short shifter by somehow shortening the throw between gears...i dont know alot about transmitions but doesnt the dist that the shifter needs to travel between gears have more to do with how the gear box is setup? If u wanted a shorter throw wouldnt u need to rework the gearbox? I may sound like a total idiot by makeing this comment, but even if ur not useing car thinking and lets just say use basic geometry...wont cutting the top of the shifter make it a shorter throw? My had will travel a shorter dist between throws with my shifter cut then with it stock thus letting me shift faster? I know i shift much quicker with my shifter cut down now then before...

the explanation chucez gave is pretty good, i know how your thinking, but your actually not shorting your shift. this website will explain it http://www.twmshiftknobs.com/faq/#1 , hope you understand after that. here is a direct link to the image http://www.twmperformance.com/flash/shifter.swf, but its flash so yea,
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1. What is a short shifter?
A common misconception in the industry is that a short throw shifter is just a chopped off version of the stock shifter, in reality it is a much more complex part. The geometry of a short throw shifter has been altered in such a way as to reduce the distance that the upper section of the shifter needs to move to achieve the same degree of movement in the lower section. The pictures below illustrate the stock throw versus the reduced throw of the TWM short shifter.
The end result is a shorter, more precise shift which requires a shorter hand movement to engage the gear.

[Chucez]

Originally Posted by REN69

+1 for the MS paint skills.

Thanks . I wish that I'd have found that flash file from TWM last night though.