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Old 03-04-2007, 10:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question How hard is it to replace Steering Rack on 1989 Corolla?

How hard is it to replace Steering Rack on 1989 Corolla? Mine is worn out and when cold it does not provide power steering until the engine is warm.. 315,000 miles on it.

No access to hoist, only a floor jack in my home garage, I see rebuilts for about $150.00

1989 Toyota Corolla SR5 2d/FWD carb.

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Are you sure you have enough fluid in the reservoir. I worned out rack wouldnt act that way.
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Old 03-05-2007, 01:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Are you sure you have enough fluid in the reservoir. I worned out rack wouldnt act that way.
Hi, I am not ignoring, you, but you are not answering my question...

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Old 03-05-2007, 02:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi again,, I rebuilt the Power Steering pump last year with new seals. It sort of helped, as it isn't totally dead when cold, but it' isnt' working near as well as it should when cold. The steering rack and seals and pump and hoses and fittings do not leak! But the rack is worn out and causing the problem. I may not touch it because the car is old. and not worth continously throwing money into this bottonless pit. I am just trying to keep it drivable for a while longer.

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Old 03-05-2007, 02:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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No need ot be rude... He was just putting up a suggestion. Yeah it sounds like a pump or fluid issue since the rack wouldn't be affected nearly that much by the heat from the engine like the fluid would.

have you tried to drain all the fluid out of the system and putting all new stuff in?
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Old 03-05-2007, 04:08 PM   #6 (permalink)
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when I took out the pump last year I put all new fluid in..

still no one is answering my question..

I think maybe next time I will quit giving too much info because then I could get to the answer and question a little faster.
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Maybe if you stopped being so dense, we'd be happy to help you.

Heck do you even realize how difficult its to analyze automotive problems on a text based screen with just few "details" on whats happening. Really its not easy. Its helluva lot easier to analyze problems when you can see and feel the problem there and then. If you want a definate answer, go to toyota and have a service person look at the car. He'll give you an absolute answer, that costs, our advice is free, so you have to expect that we cant give you the answer you want to hear, we give our opinions on the problem.

We're also here to help people from not getting ripped off by fixing the wrong issue.

As for replacing the steering rack, you only need to remove the inner steering joints and unbolt the lines and 4 bolts. Then it comes out.

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Old 03-06-2007, 12:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I don't need your insults.. please no more..whatever you do, I wish you well, I can communicate with everyone else (but you) from now on... thank...you,,


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Maybe if you stopped being so dense, we'd be happy to help you.

Heck do you even realize how difficult its to analyze automotive problems on a text based screen with just few "details" on whats happening. Really its not easy. Its helluva lot easier to analyze problems when you can see and feel the problem there and then. If you want a definate answer, go to toyota and have a service person look at the car. He'll give you an absolute answer, that costs, our advice is free, so you have to expect that we cant give you the answer you want to hear, we give our opinions on the problem.

We're also here to help people from not getting ripped off by fixing the wrong issue.

As for replacing the steering rack, you only need to remove the inner steering joints and unbolt the lines and 4 bolts. Then it comes out.
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he just speaks the truth. you keep biting peoples heads off in threads when they don't agree with you. You yourself said you don't want to put tonns of money into the car, so we suggested a couple things that are more minor and won't cost much to do rather than replacing a steering rack, and I would say get it rebuilt. A good rebuild can be better than orginal
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To Answer your original Question: It is a huge pain to replace the steering Rack. To get to mine i had to remove the entire engine, as it is the first thing that is bolted to the firewall, so it is the last thing that wants to come off. Theres heaps in the way to replace it..
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Yes, it's the rack:

http://www.buy-steering.com/troubleshoot.htm

http://www.forparts.com/ICpowersteeringleakt5.05.htm


Of Course it's the rack, and I am still not ready to replace it,, the labor is just too much for my screwed up body... But, if it does get worse, I mjght might have to have somone else do it..

It I had a hydraulic lift I would consider R&R.

look in the atricles I posted: under no power sterring when cold.... you can't even rebuild them because replacing seals does not repair a failing rack.. besides, you can find rebuilts for $150.00. It is the labor that kills the deal.

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Cool

BTW in my past life, I was an engineering tech, in Aerospace, after I left the USAF, I did contract work on the hydraulic dry pump that ran the Nitrogen fuel tank replentishment pump on the C5 Galaxy, Air Force Transport Plane. I ran and tested hydraulics with heaters that would ramp the hydraulic oil up to 350 degrees F, at 5,000 PSI.

I can tell you how that squeeled like hell when warming it up, especially when we dropped the temp down to 50 below zero, so we could cycle temps up and down... to do performance checks..


The nitrogen fills the fuel tanks as an inert gas to replace oxygen in fuel tanks while the fuel is used up. This is so if there is enemy fire or an explosion the inert gas to help prevent fires.

Anyways, I am not a stranger to mechanics... while a kid I learned mechanics rebuilding everything on a car from the nuts and bolts up. But, since I became disabled, It's very hard to do the work.

Many years has passed too,,,,

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You can remove the rack from underneath the car quite easily.

Comparing aeromotive engineering to automotive engneering is quite far fetched. Only similarity I've seen is basic piston engines and the brake setup (which is closer to a motorcycle anyways). I used to be a pilot.
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You can remove the rack from underneath the car quite easily.

Comparing aeromotive engineering to automotive engneering is quite far fetched. Only similarity I've seen is basic piston engines and the brake setup (which is closer to a motorcycle anyways). I used to be a pilot.
I am trying to rely to you that I am not a kid with no experience, I have done more than my share of work and troubleshooting with several degrees too.. (Electronic Engineering, and Business to name 2. My original major was in auto mechanics and engine rebuilding, and I don't appreciate you calling me dense.. you have no clue who you are talking to, and have no respect for. I you were doing this to a person , in person, they would probably puch your lights out.. I would appreciate if you just left me alone. I have no intention of getting kicked form this BB over your intense desire to harass me.


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Yeah, well.. i dont know where you got the impression that I was harassing you, when I was probably the first one to actually try to help you.

Since you in your first post said that you didnt want to get an expensive repair and I asked you to check for fluid. Then you basically blew me off "shut up with your opinion, you didnt answer me what I wanted". so much for respect from your side.

Respect works both ways you know, to get respect you need to earn it. I dont really care if I dont have your respect, I've been actively in the automotive field for the past 7 years in one way or another. I've already managed to help build several race cars.

So when I ask you if you checked the fluid as that would be the cheapest fix, you coulda said you checked it already, not blow it off like I was some sort of chimpanzee with a wrench.

And if calling you dense hit a nerve, then my appologies for that comment.
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