4age satisfaction report (espacially 20v) - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

sportrally88 · 03-20-2007, 07:58 PM

how is everyone feeling about there 4a engines?

i love my 20v ....and my carbs(mmmm yummy)

. it doesn't make much power imho but i love the sucker to death!! but to be honest i thought it made more power than it really does...

freakinbox · 03-20-2007, 09:28 PM

I love my 4af

Keeps me out of trouble more so than if I had something with power lol

toyotaspeed90 · 03-21-2007, 02:15 AM

20V on carbs....? why? what adapter? hell, what distributor are you using? the starlet housing modified to fit a 16V won't work on a 20V......

anyways.....

bigports are ok.... now have only 1 car with a bigport, it runs well and is quick

smallports are better.... have 1 car with a smallport, it runs better and is much quicker

20V's silvertops are overrated.... faintly better than a smallmport with a higher price

4agze's are superior... have 1 car with an ae101 4agze and it dominates the others easily

aarong420 · 03-21-2007, 06:49 AM

my 20V is alright, it lets me down sometimes, it's just not as quick as i expected it to be but it seems to be a quite reliable engine so far. i got a blacktop head so hopefully i can swap some stuff to get a little more juice from this mellon. after that, either supercharge or turbo it.

micro214_kp61 · 03-21-2007, 07:02 AM

blah, 1.6L 4A-GE is always NICE.............

until you feel the power of the boosted 2.0L 3S-GTE. that changed my opinion pretty quickly.

micro214_kp61 · 03-21-2007, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toyotaspeed90

20V's silvertops are overrated.... faintly better than a smallmport with a higher price

slivertop is not overrated on it's own, the 20V owners set their expectations too high even before they buy the engine thinking they'll run low 12s

.

i don't know about your area, but here in Toronto, the 20Vs are cheaper now than the smallport and GZE.

aarong420 · 03-21-2007, 07:11 AM

lol dude whoever buys any car and expects to run 12's has high hopes unless he's got some serious mods.
i got my ST for about 650US, inclusive of gbox harness brain sensors etc.
my plan was for the 3S but the engine i had in b4 gave up to soon, didnt have the $$ for the 3S at the time so. thats why im 4ag now.

toyotaspeed90 · 03-21-2007, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micro214_kp61

slivertop is not overrated on it's own, the 20V owners set their expectations too high even before they buy the engine thinking they'll run low 12s

.

i don't know about your area, but here in Toronto, the 20Vs are cheaper now than the smallport and GZE.

no it's mainly people taking the word of the importer and not of people who know what they're talking about....

i never said a gze is cheaper.... but a smallport is cheaper just not quite as easy to find....

a friend of mine has an 88 celica alltrac.... and at 10psi its barely faster than my 87 mr2

sportrally88 · 03-21-2007, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toyotaspeed90

20V on carbs....? why? what adapter? hell, what distributor are you using? the starlet housing modified to fit a 16V won't work on a 20V......

http://toyotanation.com/forum/t183935.html

carbs are sexy

and are easier to work with and have less wiring and probablems than EFI.....oh and they sound better!!

custom adapter
msd timing so i didnt need vaccum adavnce
oh and i have a msd coil

and the 20v is only as overatted as the 4age itself

oh and N/A>boost ....its just more expensive.

ghost_ryder35 · 03-21-2007, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportrally88

oh and N/A>boost ....its just more expensive.

Definetly more expensive.

micro214_kp61 · 03-21-2007, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportrally88

http://toyotanation.com/forum/t183935.html

carbs are sexy

and are easier to work with and have less wiring and probablems than EFI.....oh and they sound better!!

custom adapter
msd timing so i didnt need vaccum adavnce
oh and i have a msd coil

and the 20v is only as overatted as the 4age itself

oh and N/A>boost ....its just more expensive.

i still want to see some dyno graphs on your set-up before i can say anything about it. i haven't seen any carb 20V efficient enough to say it's good. most of the ones that i know who tried are now back to EFI.

better get those dynoed first, then we'll talk.