AE101 tranny?

[vince0921]

I just got AE101. All stock.
Engine: 4A-fe
Transmission: C50

I noticed that the 5th gear of C50 is still big that is why the RPM is too high at high speed as compared with other cars.

I am currently looking for a transmission that has low gear ratio at 5th gear that would fit on 4A-fe.

I found out C151 has good ratio, which I am looking unto.

C151----------3.545 - 1.904 - 1.233 - 0.885 - 0.725
C50-----------3.545 - 1.904 -1.310 - 0.969 - 0.815

Will C151 would fit on 4Afe?

I am also thinking of modifying the 5th gear of the my C50, will this be ok?

[diver9000]

FWD's answer to the RWD transmission info here on club4ag, All the information may not be the same in every country..
*C50 - AE92 SR5 5-speed, 2E engine, most 4AF cars(ae92 sedans)
*C52 - AE92 GT-S 5-speed, Corolla GTi, euro 4af AE92(different final drive), Early AE101, 7afe AE101(different final drive), 4AGE AE82's
*C56 - AE101 5-Speed, AE111
*C59 - 1ZZ 5-Speed
*C60 - Celica GT-S 7th gen, Corolla XRS
*C65M - SMT from MR2 Spyder.
*C150 - Echo
*C160 - AE111 Levin/Trueno 6 Speed(lsd and none lsd versions)
*E51 - AE92 4AGZE 5-Speed(Zenki)
*E52 - 89-91 Camry 2VZFE North America
*E53 - 92-93 Camry 3VZFE North America 5-Speed
*E58 - AE92 4AGZE 5-Speed(Kouki), AE101 4AGZE
*E153 - 97-00 Camry 1MZFE, 99-00 Solara 1MZFE
*S51 - 87-91, 92-96 3SFE and 5SFE Camrys
C50 North American AE102 version 93-97 Corolla 4AFE
1st: 3.545
2nd: 1.904
3rd: 1.310
4th: .969
5th: .815
final drive: 3.722
C52 North American AE102 version 93-97 Corolla 7AFE
1st: 3.166
2nd: 1.904
3rd: 1.310
4th: .969
5th: .815
final drive: 3.722
C52 88-91 AE92 4AGE
1st: 3.166
2nd: 1.904
3rd: 1.310
4th: 0.969
5th: 0.815
Final: 4.312
C56 North American Celica ZZT230 00-05, AE101, AE111 Levin/Trueno
1st: 3.166
2nd: 1.904
3rd: 1.392
4th: 1.031
5th: .815
final drive: 4.312

C59 North American Corolla ZZE110 98-02 1ZZFE
1st: 3.166
2nd: 1.904
3rd: 1.310
4th: .885
5th: .725
final drive: 3.722 03-UP ZZE130 Corolla ratios are the same except for a 3.941 final drive.
C60 All North American 2ZZGE(Celica, Matrix, Corolla XRS, Elise, *not Exige*)
1st: 3.166
2nd: 2.050
3rd: 1.481
4th: 1.166
5th: .916
6th: .725
final drive: 4.529
The 03-05 MR2 Spyder SMT(C65M)
1st: 3.166
2nd: 1.904
3rd: 1.392
4th: 1.031
5th: .815
6th: .725
final drive: 4.312(thanks naviles16v)
C150
1st: 3.545
2nd: 1.904
3rd: 1.310
4th: 0.969
5th: 0.815
Final: 3.526
C160 Levin/Trueno AE111 6 Speed
1st: 3.166
2nd: 2.050
3rd: 1.481
4th: 1.166
5th: 0.916
6th: 0.725
Reverse: 3.250
Final Drive: 4.529
E51 Levin/Trueno AFM 4AGZE
1st - 3.230
2nd - 2.045
3rd - 1.333
4th - 0.972
5th - 0.820
Final-3.933
E52 89-91 Camry 2VZFE North America
1st: 3.230
2nd: 2.045
3rd: 1.333
4th: .972
5th: .820
final drive: 3.933
E53 92-93 Camry 3VZFE North America
1st: 3.538
2nd: 2.045
3rd: 1.333
4th: 1.028
5th: .820
Final drive: 3.625
E58 Levin/Trueno MAP 4AGZE
1st - 3.214
2nd - 2.045
3rd - 1.333
4th - 0.972
5th - 0.820
Final-3.944
E153 97-00 Camry 1MZFE, 99-00 Solara 1MZFE
1st: 3.23
2nd: 1.913
3rd: 1.258
4th: .918
5th: .731
final drive: 3.933
S51 87-91, 92-96 Camry
1st: 3.538
2nd: 1.960
3rd: 1.250
4th: .945
5th: .731
final drive: 3.736(SV21)3.944(SXV10)
c150 - Fitted to 2e-elu (and other lower spec models) EP71 Starlets.
They ran from nov 1984 through to late 1990 I believe although on the lower spec EP80's I think the same box is used.
c152 - Fitted to 2e-telu (Turbo S Version) EP71 starlets. Slightly different ratios and they have a slightly stronger input shaft. There are some slight casing changes.
Both the c150 and c152 come non-lsd although one can be fitted. As far as I'm aware only TRD make these and they may be discontinued.
c52 - Fitted to 4e-fte (GT) EP82 starlets. Much stronger than the c15x's listed above, larger diff and gearsets. Very similar to 4age c52 internally although do have a different final drive ratio and casings. The bellhousing for example is a fair bit different.
Thanks to everyone that helped.

[vince0921]

Is there a transmission which 5th gear ratio is 0.7xx that would fit on 4afe engine?

Current transmission ratio is not good enough for a high speed at lower RPM.

[Beemik]

Sure. I'm pretty sure the 20v black top 6 speed will fit. I know you said 5sdp but 6 is good too. It should pull a little better through the gears also.

[punter]

Short answer no.

From what i've seen of C series boxes you probably could swap the internals from a 1zz corollas gearbox, giving you a slightly higher top.

But really why do you think you need a higher gear? if it needed it toyota would have done it.

You could just buy some bigger wheels or taller tyres if it's that big a deal for you.

[Flashmn]

Internals from a 1ZZ-FE gearbox most likely wont go into an early C series transmission.

What you can do probably is to use the bellhousing from an early C series and stick it that way onto the car.

[vince0921]

Anyway, I am getting a hard time for this transmission.
Maybe I should stick with the stock one and change the car if budget permits in the future.

I am this anxious because as I compare this car with my previous car (Mits Lancer - 4G92), the corolla consumes a lot of fuel and has high RPM at high speeds.

Any suggetion how to lessen fuel consumption?

My average consumption is 25-30mpg. From what I know, this is normal.