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3S-GTE pRIZM · 05-20-2007, 09:24 PM

Ok well i have heard ( from not that reliable sources) that the silver top 4a-ge isnt good on boost...but i was thinking that it would be seeing how it has an extra intake valve...if anyone knows let me know...should i go turbo or ITBs

Flashmn · 05-21-2007, 03:59 AM

Considering the silvertop has ITB's to begin with, I dont see the point in "going itb's"
As for the extra intake valve, I dont see why that would be bad for boost. I'd say its not good for boost because of the high compression.

***REN69*** · 05-21-2007, 12:23 PM

Actually both silver and blacktop 4AGEs have been successfully turboed before, the Silvertop is the usually the better choice out of the 2 since it's the stronger 20V.

Most people always say get a GZE and turbo that, reason being is because the GZE is already supercharged and strengthened for such duties, but all the other motors can also be turboed successfully.

Flashmn · 05-21-2007, 06:48 PM

^AMEN TO THAT

3S-GTE pRIZM · 05-22-2007, 11:03 PM

ok well i didnt know that the silver top came with ITBs stock...ok well one of my friend who has the same car told me to keep the 4a-c or put a 3t-c in it(i cant remember which motor he said) is there anything that those motor is good for...he said they were good for boost but im not sure

Flashmn · 05-23-2007, 02:34 PM

word of advice, done listen to your friends, because they dont really know much if they suggest those.

Both of those engines are age old and finding parts for them isnt the easiest task, plus the 3T-C is for RWD layout, so good luck in finding a gearbox for it.

All engines can be made to handle boost... But read my first line, that'll get you far than listening to misinformation.

3S-GTE pRIZM · 05-27-2007, 10:48 PM

well my car is a rwd layout...its an 83

AVANT · 05-27-2007, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 3S-GTE pRIZM

well my car is a rwd layout...its an 83

LOL, that would have been useful information to give in the original post since your name doesn't exactly reflect the car you have, hahaha.

3S-GTE pRIZM · 05-28-2007, 12:03 AM

o no my name is from my old car... where i did a 3s-gte swap into a prizm...i was only pullin like 320 whp but it was great in the light weight prizm...my best run was a 10.2eta but that was because i couldnt catch traction...lol

micro214_kp61 · 05-28-2007, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 3S-GTE pRIZM

o no my name is from my old car... where i did a 3s-gte swap into a prizm...i was only pullin like 320 whp but it was great in the light weight prizm...my best run was a 10.2eta but that was because i couldnt catch traction...lol

this makes me laugh!!!

Flashmn · 05-28-2007, 02:07 AM

I'm sceptical. 10.2et with 320hp... got any timeslips to prove that?

Because MR2's with 3S-GTEs run about 10.2 seconds with around 800hp, and thats with a RWD layout. Also some of the pro FWD drag racers run 10 seconds and have helluva lot more than 320whp, which isnt exactly mind boggling.

JustinGB · 05-28-2007, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 3S-GTE pRIZM

o no my name is from my old car... where i did a 3s-gte swap into a prizm...i was only pullin like 320 whp but it was great in the light weight prizm...my best run was a 10.2eta but that was because i couldnt catch traction...lol

wow... 10.2 from 320whp claiming traction coulda have been better? something doesn't add up. i'd like to see this car...

fistofmeat · 05-28-2007, 07:35 AM

10.2? im not into drag, so is that like top out speed? or like 0-100? and doesn't the 3sgte only pull like 200hp (except for the japan versions)?

Flashmn · 05-28-2007, 07:38 AM

Thats your time to complete the 400m dash from a standstill.

***REN69*** · 05-28-2007, 11:07 AM

haha.. everyone assumed you had a Prizm, not an AE72. My suggestiong would be to either

A. Get a 4AGZE and turbo it (or any A series motor for that matter)
B. Get a 3SGTE and swap it in (it's been done succesfully in RWD Toyotas)