97 4afe cooling issue - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums


» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
» Wheel & Tire Center

Go Back   Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums > Toyota Passenger and Sports Car Forums > Corolla Forum > Archived Corolla threads

Archived Corolla threads Older Archived Corolla threads

ToyotaNation.com is the premier Toyota Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-29-2007, 07:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
Official TN Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Posts: 391
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 1 reviews
View canadiancelica's Photo Gallery
97 4afe cooling issue

So over the weekend I flushed the cooling system & put in a new thermostat. Can't get the coolant to circulate. The t-stat is opening as I had hot water running into the engine and it came back out the other end. But i cant seem to get the inlet hose to warm up/take water into the engine. Any ideas or tips or tricks. Garage is last ditch effort. lol

thanx all
__________________
canadiancelica is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 05-29-2007, 08:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
One with the force
 
Bitter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Near Chicago
Posts: 4,835
Gameroom cash: $559600
Thanks: 3
Thanked 152 Times in 148 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View Bitter's Photo Gallery
is the hose going to the bottom of the rad getting hot? is the radiator full of fluid? is the bleed valve in the new tstat at the 12 o clock position?
Bitter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2007, 10:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
Resident asshole
 
Flashmn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 9,539
Gameroom cash: $352045
Thanks: 3
Thanked 26 Times in 26 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View Flashmn's Photo Gallery
Inlet hose warms up when the thermostat opens. Might be around 82c so the hoses do get quite warm.
Flashmn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2007, 03:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
Official TN Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Posts: 391
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 1 reviews
View canadiancelica's Photo Gallery
Turns out it was the thermostat that toyota sold me was the wrong one. It was a little larger in diameter then the one I took out so it wasnt sealing properly and sucking in air. I, of course, tried to tighten the nuts & broke them off. now Im even more fugged
__________________
canadiancelica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2007, 06:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
Official TN Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Posts: 391
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 1 reviews
View canadiancelica's Photo Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bitter
is the hose going to the bottom of the rad getting hot? is the radiator full of fluid? is the bleed valve in the new tstat at the 12 o clock position?

Hose stays cold
rad is full
yes on the bleed on the t-stat

Nothing has worked. I've tried everything.

That lower hose just doesn't get hot and the radiator gets super hot as does everything else. Only thing I can think of now are:

1) New thermostat is a dud
2) Some kind of crazy air lock in inlet hose.

Going to try to use the rad fan sensor as a bleed screw tomorrow to try and get coolant up in that hose. If that doesn't work it's going to toyota monday morning and will sit there until they have time to look at it.
__________________
canadiancelica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2007, 08:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
One with the force
 
Bitter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Near Chicago
Posts: 4,835
Gameroom cash: $559600
Thanks: 3
Thanked 152 Times in 148 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View Bitter's Photo Gallery
when i did mine, it took a good 20 minutes to bleed just the air from changing the tstat! had to wait for the engine to heat up then the tstat to completely open. the rad did get warm, i saw the fluid flowing past the cap opening, a few bubbles, but not much ya know. then finall blurp blurp bubble bubble! i revved the engine up and down a little while doing this to gett he fluid really moving.
Bitter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2007, 06:34 AM   #7 (permalink)
Official TN Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Posts: 391
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 1 reviews
View canadiancelica's Photo Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bitter
when i did mine, it took a good 20 minutes to bleed just the air from changing the tstat! had to wait for the engine to heat up then the tstat to completely open. the rad did get warm, i saw the fluid flowing past the cap opening, a few bubbles, but not much ya know. then finall blurp blurp bubble bubble! i revved the engine up and down a little while doing this to gett he fluid really moving.

It's run a good half hour and GOTTEN HOT. Few small bubbles, I've even driven it around, but that lower hose doesn't get warm. I know the water pump works cause i can get coolant to flood out when revving.

Gonna try to bleed that lower hose today, if not, I can only assume the new t-stat I got from toyota is bunk

John
__________________
canadiancelica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2007, 07:31 AM   #8 (permalink)
One with the force
 
Bitter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Near Chicago
Posts: 4,835
Gameroom cash: $559600
Thanks: 3
Thanked 152 Times in 148 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View Bitter's Photo Gallery
that is possible, are you 100% sure they gave you the correct part? guy on another corolla board or maybe it was a celica site had gotten the wrong part, the tstat was too large and was not able to open fully.
Bitter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2007, 03:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
Official TN Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Posts: 391
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 1 reviews
View canadiancelica's Photo Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bitter
that is possible, are you 100% sure they gave you the correct part? guy on another corolla board or maybe it was a celica site had gotten the wrong part, the tstat was too large and was not able to open fully.
hmmmmm, I'll have to check that out monday. I can manually put coolant through the engine when the t-stat is open. pour it in the upper hose and it raises the level in the rad & over flows it. I got some bubbles out, but after about 40 minutes of idling the rad began to boil (small rapid bubbles).... I can't figure this one out atall.


Did the 97 corolla come stock with an aluminum radiator??

I put an aftermarket aluminum rad in my celica and had trouble with the OEM rad cap sealing properly. I'm wondering if the previous owner replaced it and didnt mention it.
__________________
canadiancelica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2007, 05:17 PM   #10 (permalink)
Resident asshole
 
Flashmn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 9,539
Gameroom cash: $352045
Thanks: 3
Thanked 26 Times in 26 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View Flashmn's Photo Gallery
yes they had aluminium radiators with plastic tanks.
Flashmn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2007, 09:35 PM   #11 (permalink)
Official TN Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Posts: 391
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 1 reviews
View canadiancelica's Photo Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flashmn
yes they had aluminium radiators with plastic tanks.
thanx, that rules out that possible issue
__________________
canadiancelica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2007, 09:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
One with the force
 
Bitter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Near Chicago
Posts: 4,835
Gameroom cash: $559600
Thanks: 3
Thanked 152 Times in 148 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View Bitter's Photo Gallery
if its getting hot enough to boil the radiator fluid then the fans would be cycling on, even with the cap off. the coolant is moving around in the rad when you rev the engine and the level rises and falls, whats the temp needle doing?
Bitter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2007, 07:13 AM   #13 (permalink)
Official TN Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Posts: 391
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 1 reviews
View canadiancelica's Photo Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bitter
if its getting hot enough to boil the radiator fluid then the fans would be cycling on, even with the cap off. the coolant is moving around in the rad when you rev the engine and the level rises and falls, whats the temp needle doing?

Sitting @ 1/2 way mark the entire time. Rad did begin to boil, rad fan did NOT turn on. I discovered I have to unplug that to turn it on, so that sensor is toast.

Water pump definitely causes turbulence in the fluid.

When I allowed the rad to come to a near boil, the lower hose was hot, but it seemed like it was from conduction, it wasn't nearly as hot as the water in the rad, and as soon as I turned the fan on it or went for a drive, the lower hose went ICE cold. The system is only building minimal pressure as well, I can still squeeze the hose to touch even after a good 20 minutes, 120kph highway run.
__________________
canadiancelica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2007, 07:46 AM   #14 (permalink)
Resident asshole
 
Flashmn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 9,539
Gameroom cash: $352045
Thanks: 3
Thanked 26 Times in 26 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View Flashmn's Photo Gallery
I'm thinking maybe you dont have a problem, but your analysis methods are wrong...
Flashmn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2007, 10:04 AM   #15 (permalink)
Official TN Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Posts: 391
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 1 reviews
View canadiancelica's Photo Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flashmn
I'm thinking maybe you dont have a problem, but your analysis methods are wrong...

You could be correct!!

I'm just going to drive it and if it pops, then it pops, if not, then sweet. 4afe heads are easy to come by locally, lots of corollas kickin around. I'm out of patience and caring. It's only a 18/20 month fill in since dominoz wrote my other car off

thanx all. I'll let ya know if/when it blows up. lol
__________________
canadiancelica is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums > Toyota Passenger and Sports Car Forums > Corolla Forum > Archived Corolla threads

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
4afe to 7afe ranterc Archived Corolla threads 4 03-06-2007 01:14 PM
1994 Camry stalling issue y2k2s2k 3rd & 4th Generation (1992–1996 & 1997–2001) 6 11-14-2006 02:27 AM
Seat Belt issue on Corolla 97 anorbert Archived Corolla threads 2 10-11-2006 03:36 PM
2006 RAV4 performance issue mranu RAV4 Forum 0 09-06-2006 11:21 AM
What is the HP difference of a Early 4AFE and a Late 4AFE? toyloco Archived Corolla threads 10 08-05-2006 07:54 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:28 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.
ToyotaNation.com is an independent Toyota/Lexus enthusiast website. ToyotaNation.com is not sponsored by or in any way affiliated with Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc. The Toyota, Lexus and Scion names and logos are trademarks owned by Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc.