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Old 08-27-2007, 11:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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calling all turbo literate people

ive been doing a lot of research on homemadeturbo and if i asked them there i know they would tell me to piece together a turbo but my question is...is this kit with a t25 legit? anyone know much about turboing a 1zzfe?

http://www.prostreetonline.com/pnsku/tc2502x.asp



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Old 08-28-2007, 11:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Pssss!!

Turbo Kits are ALWAY missing something!!! And don't take short cut on turbo your Corolla!! Do it right the first time or don't do it at all. I myself have done research on turbo out N/A cars...........its a big headache....too many little catches.....its all base on your knowledge or HOW DEEP IS YOUR POCKET!!!! 98% of the time what your friends will tell you is BS!!!! Keep researching!!!
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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There actually should be kits out there for turboing other cars with the 1ZZ-FE. Fitment may be an issue (things like intercoolers and the like not being compatible.) I seem to recall that there may've been a couple turbo kits for the MR2 Spyder?

That said, I've never heard good things about Turbo Specialties' products. Ranging from complaints about shoddy cracking manifolds to cheap glued-together (that's bad) Chinese-knockoff Garrets to parts not being fittable or even sent...

For the money you'd spend on a kit, it'd probably be better to source your own parts. Intercoolers and the like are fairly generic and fairly easy to get off Ebay or any number of parts stores, turbos are either junkyard material (do a bit of research on what came with what cars/years and what to look for regarding shaft play etc) or you can get them new/rebuilt (this is going to be your largest expense). The tune is the crucial bit, and you can either go homemade (rising-rate FPRs, bigger injectors, dicking about with AFM adjustments and getting piggyback computers, this all can be a nightmare to get working in concert and risk bad things to your motor if you don't know what you're doing) or go for a standalone / piggyback management system--I'd recommend Megasquirt, as it's $200 or so versus the $2,000 or so of the AEM EMS or TECs or Motronics etc. This, a proper wideband O2 sensor (or dyno time with one) and a bit of wiring it in will let you just run differently-sized injectors and be able to tune for any amount of boost your engine willl take.

General tips apply...make sure your engine's in good shape already, no compression problems or major oil leaks, be sensible with the gains you're expecting (stock CR, to run well on pump gas, probably won't let you get away with more than a half-bar or so of boost), and be prepared to spend money to make sure it's reliable. Cheap and fast is going to be much less fun than reliable and fast.
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Old 08-29-2007, 07:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Its TRUE what Piloter sayed....
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Old 08-29-2007, 07:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yes especially the third paragraph. I couldnt agree more.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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yea. i would rather piece together a kit for the cost reason. and i can control exactly what parts i get. i think im going to go check out some local junk yards for parts. a local shop suggested a sc32 turbo i believe when i talked with them. but i think right now my main concern is the manifold and tuning.
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Old 08-30-2007, 10:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Yes, Slowrolla that kit is legit. However do what I did, and buy the half kit with a t25bb and then get your own parts for the rest. I'm highly satisfied with it. However the SAFCII and Apexi Turbo Timer only come with the Extreme Kit.

I love thier service there too. BUT MAKE SURE YOU GET A T25BB. My friend has the normal t25, there's a big difference. The ONLY problem I had with thier turbo kit was I had to get an oil restrictor that actually restricted the oil. The one they include is a piece of shit with a hole in it.

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Old 08-30-2007, 10:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
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yea if i were to order that kid i would be getting the extreme version. but im not sure if im going to go with that kid because the t25bb is a little small. im gonna hit up a junkyard and do some searching to find a suitable turbo and stuff.
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:08 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:17 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Yea and don't buy a turbo too big your your small engine.
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Old 08-31-2007, 04:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
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alright thanks guys.
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Old 08-31-2007, 10:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Forgot to mention!!!!

Radiator
Fuel Injector
Fuel Rail
Fuel Pump
Oil Pan
etc.....................
Oil Taping

I stop researching the Turbo Setup awhile back...after I ran into those mention above...the price kept stacking up..... those little catches...
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Old 08-31-2007, 11:13 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Honestly, the stock fuel pump and injectors on the corolla can handle 8 psi steady with no problem. However, my engine is the 7AFE (Pre-emissions nerf) engine. So I don't know if your's will handle it. My gas mileage is still pretty decent.

Also, investing in a electronic boost controller is SO nice. I finally put mine in, and I love how easy it is to adjust.
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Old 08-31-2007, 11:33 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I turboed a 2000 S-10 pickup a few years ago, totally home brewed, and it turned out exellent (per my realistic expectations). At the time, there was NOTHING available for turboing this truck. Don't scrimp on a decent used turbo though. I bet I had 5 used turbos pass through my hands before I found one that I was confident in, which was a Garret T-25.

Don't disable your car by getting it in some state of disassembly, then losing interest in the project. From your sig it looks like you have a pretty nice Corolla, so that probably won't happen anyway. My S-10 was my daily-driver at the time, and everything was planned, built, and fitted while I was driving it daily. When installation day came, it was done in about 6 hours. Best advice I can give is to become intimately familiar with your engine bay. Might want to break your manifold (and other) bolts loose and apply anti-sieze compound to them so you minimize installation day surprizes.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:59 AM   #15 (permalink)
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. I bet I had 5 used turbos pass through my hands before I found one that I was confident in, which was a Garret T-25.
the kit that i was looking at had a t25bb. which is the dual bearings one. and i guess its a little nicer than just the t25. but when i talked with a locol performance shop one of the guys told me that he though a t25bb would be to small. and he suggested an sc32. do you know what the psi range is on the t25bb. the int. WG. comes set at 6. but whats the highest it could be set at comfortably without damaging the turbo. i would like to push more than 6 pounds for sure.
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