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Old 10-02-2003, 10:31 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Here's what i think, if it matters.

2 parts to the turn, before apex and after apex, or if you like slowing down, and speeding up.

With a light front, turn in will be quicker. True that you'll have less weight up front, but under braking, front end traction will be ample. Then pulling away from the corner, less weight might come into play. Maybe some wheel hop and a little "understeer" here.

Also, the car will be more balanced with less weight up front so I would vote for improved handling.

At any rate, the Borolla is turning into a Coololla.
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Old 10-02-2003, 10:54 AM   #17 (permalink)
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the car will understeer less, not more..
that's what i said! cyril confused me o.O
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doesn't less weight in front mean less traction since it's FF?? Also, he said he had understeer with his current setup during turns ( with braking...) so wouldn't a light front end make the situation worst?
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Old 10-02-2003, 12:25 PM   #19 (permalink)
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So did you get your compression fixed up or what??
If not why are you wasting time on this stuff when your car doesn't even run right?

I'm sure another 15 HP or whatever will help more on the track than 20 less pounds...Or would it? haha anyway nice job finding the front you wanted...
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Old 10-02-2003, 12:28 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Old 10-02-2003, 02:58 PM   #21 (permalink)
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So did you get your compression fixed up or what??
If not why are you wasting time on this stuff when your car doesn't even run right?

I'm sure another 15 HP or whatever will help more on the track than 20 less pounds...Or would it? haha anyway nice job finding the front you wanted...
compression will be fixed next week

everything is coming along...
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Old 10-06-2003, 11:23 AM   #22 (permalink)
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compression will be fixed next week

everything is coming along...

awsome! it's next week, is it done yet?
Got that front on?
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Old 10-06-2003, 11:32 AM   #23 (permalink)
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What? You mean front-heavy is a good thing?

*go buys another camry*


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If not why are you wasting time on this stuff when your car doesn't even run right?
This sentence sums up the whole thread.
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Old 10-07-2003, 12:24 AM   #24 (permalink)
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So did you get your compression fixed up or what??
If not why are you wasting time on this stuff when your car doesn't even run right?

I'm sure another 15 HP or whatever will help more on the track than 20 less pounds...Or would it? haha anyway nice job finding the front you wanted...
What did we call people who would get body kits and other usless **** when a car needs money droped on restoration and repairs?

Cough. *ricer* Cough.

But I guess rice and boro are one in the same.

LOL!!! j/k
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doesn't less weight in front mean less traction since it's FF?? Also, he said he had understeer with his current setup during turns ( with braking...) so wouldn't a light front end make the situation worst?
don't quote me on this, but i think it has to do with tire dynamics.. obviously, your front tires are only capable of providing a certain amount of grip.. during initial turn-in and braking, you're putting a lot of weight on the front tires, and then asking them to grip in the direction of the turn. However the momentum of the car (which is affected by weight) is still pushing forward in the initial direction.. if the force pushing the car forward is too great, then the tires run out of grip to turn the car, and you get understeer..

so if you have more weight over the nose of the car, it will make this problem worse..

more weight over the nose of an FF car will probably give it better straight line traction, but not better handling, since FF cars are (almost?) always heavier in the front than the back to begin with..

anyways, i did a horrible job explaining this and my physics teacher is now hanging his head in shame, but whatever, I know what I mean.
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Old 10-07-2003, 07:31 PM   #27 (permalink)
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oh ok, i got it, thanks
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