AE86, which motor should I go with to be in the 13s? - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

StreetWizeRacin · 02-29-2004, 05:13 PM

As title states. I will be buying an AE86 hatch soon, possibly even a coupe. I'd like to do a swap...and I am looking to build up a low - mid 13 second car. I was debating between a 4-AG GE and a 4AGZE. My question is, should I be better off purchasing a 4AGGE and boosting it with a homemade kit, probably paired up with a t3 turbo...or should i go supercharged with the 4AGZE. I know with the 4AGZE with a Cusco pulley, intake, exhaust, etc...in a stripped Corolla would be quick, but I dont think it would yield 13s. Please excuse my lack of knowledge on the subject, I am somewhat new to the AE86 scene, always loved them but I am not researching a bit more, hopefully the knowledgeable people of this forum can help me out a bit and help me make up my mind!

- Mike

hachi_slow · 02-29-2004, 06:07 PM

My suggestion: go to www.club4ag.com and go to their drag racing section. Ask questions about this car and your goals in there.

IMO: 7agte will get you in the 13s. 4agze will get you in the 14s

GT_GREG · 02-29-2004, 07:12 PM

personally id pick a different chassis to start with!

although the car is very light over all ... the car wasnt built all that well to do 13 second passes consistantly.

hachi slow is right tho. the drag section has tons of info

GT

boroEF · 02-29-2004, 09:49 PM

ur a fool to choose the ae86 as a drag platform.
u want 13s? get a turbo II and u can hit the 13s with minimal modifications.

EJ86 · 03-01-2004, 03:27 AM

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Fast and the furious and Initial D don't go together!!!!

***MRQtwinturbo*** · 03-01-2004, 10:57 AM

wrong wrong car to be thinking of making into a dragster....trust me....i tried.....everything short of carbing the 4AGE and the best i could muster was mid 15s.....even if u could make enough power (ie turbo).....u'll have the drivetrain to worry about....that was the main stumbling block for myself...so i just decided to just buy a faster car.....

StreetWizeRacin · 03-01-2004, 02:54 PM

Well thanks for the input. I already have a 13 second car...a GSR swapped 94 Civic CX...its pretty quick. I just want an AE86 for the car, I always loved them, and im not buying it because of a cartoon either. I just figured instead of an all out drifter, maybe I could make it run nice numbers at the strip too.

hachi_slow · 03-01-2004, 03:20 PM

Don't listen to these guys...it's your car, do what you want with it. BTW, any responses from club4ag yet? I saw you were on there.

And if you really want a drag 86...try hitting up "drag86" on club4ag. His name is Luis from Paradise Racing. He's got one quick corolla.

***MRQtwinturbo*** · 03-01-2004, 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by hachi_slow
Don't listen to these guys...it's your car, do what you want with it. BTW, any responses from club4ag yet? I saw you were on there.

And if you really want a drag 86...try hitting up "drag86" on club4ag. His name is Luis from Paradise Racing. He's got one quick corolla.

the car is underpowered.....weighs in like a pig.....great setup for drag.....

YsGuy · 03-01-2004, 04:59 PM

Drag86's car is an amazing drag car, but he is running a turbocharged 3rzfe with tons of mods.

If you are thinking about building a drag car with more of a budget, try 4agze imo - the few cars w/ 4agze I have sat in are insanely fast for the amount of power they are putting out. It would be more fun to build a drift car as they are great setup for that

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hachi_slow · 03-01-2004, 05:04 PM

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the car is underpowered.....weighs in like a pig.....great setup for drag.....

so is a civic ..... weighs in close to a corolla (but nothing weight reduction can't fix) ... a civic is ff ... seems that this is great setup for drag also

- but a lot of people use a civic for drag. Why? Because they can.

My point is, there are a lot of cars out there with a bad setup for drag racing - stock, but if you have the time and money to spend to modify that car, it can make a decent drag car.

Anyways, he's only aiming for 13's...those numbers are a dime a dozen.

|PuNiSh3R| · 03-01-2004, 06:12 PM

Whatever engine you do get.. make sure you rebuild it thoroughly.. or else you will do a ton of mods and wonder why you aren't getting the power that you should be expecting. You can lose a LOT of power and efficiency if piston rings or valve seals are bad.. or your valves are burnt.. etc.

Morpheus · 03-01-2004, 07:06 PM

Its a poor drag platform.

***MRQtwinturbo*** · 03-01-2004, 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by hachi_slow

Anyways, he's only aiming for 13's...those numbers are a dime a dozen.

maybe for civics...talons...and the like..but how many ae86s out there run even close to this??......

hachi_slow · 03-01-2004, 08:36 PM

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maybe for civics...talons...and the like..but how many ae86s out there run even close to this??......

Not many. But isn't that why he wants to do this? To be one of the few that can?

I say, more power to you, if you can accomplish this.