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toyotaspeed90 · 05-29-2004, 03:56 AM

i noticed you have "te37 or 51" in your sig....

te27 is what you want

..... the 27's are the mango's that everyone loves.... the 51 is the HEAVIEST corolla ever made... a good friend of mine has one that dyno'd (still carb, using a hybrid 2t/3t motor) 135hp at the wheels.... anyways.... he has quite a bit more torque and from the power, he's bending the frame of the 51 because it's such a heavily built car (sounds backwards.... but yeah, i've seen the bend marks on the body)

so... te27 is what you want

***falnfenix*** · 05-29-2004, 10:51 AM

i like it for the shell..i'd be swapping in a totally different motor, trans, everything.

but thanks for trying to correct me hun

and BTW - you could have PMed me about this instead of making a thread about it.

TRDragoon · 05-29-2004, 11:43 AM

^ its a good topic we could share about.....cept i dunno much about corolla b4 kp61...

***falnfenix*** · 05-29-2004, 02:10 PM

my thought was making a domestic/toyota bastard hybrid...dropping a stupidfast souped V6 from a ford or a chevy in it...and yeah, i know it'll be heaver with a V6...i dun care. more torque

micro214_kp61 · 05-29-2004, 04:50 PM

falnfenix.... a friend of mine is selling one right now. it's a '77 light blue liftback. everything is still stock from the 2T engine to the interior, its mint!

BTW, if i'm gonna build an old school corolla, i would also choose the TE27 mango then convert it into a trueno, i know wishful thinking eh? but i guess that would be my ultimate dream corolla, twin-cam 2L 2TG with dual 45 webers.... hmmmm! dreaming is free right? hehehehe!

micro214_kp61 · 05-29-2004, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by falnfenix
my thought was making a domestic/toyota bastard hybrid...dropping a stupidfast souped V6 from a ford or a chevy in it...and yeah, i know it'll be heaver with a V6...i dun care. more torque

V6? why go domestic when you can go all out toyota? V6 tacoma engine swap, baby or better yet... V8 Tundra power (dunno if it's gonna fit!) then supercharged that sucka!

toyotaspeed90 · 05-29-2004, 09:34 PM

why even do that? the guy with the te51 (although the frame issues he's having is making him want a te27 even more now) has a megasquirt ecu setup ready to go in (EFI) and a set of TWM adapters and ITB's to go on...

oh yeah, and i've already ridden in it while we were behind one of the fastest n/a ae86's in WA state.... and we kept up! (the 51 is still carb'd as of now...)

micro214_kp61 · 05-30-2004, 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by toyotaspeed90
why even do that? the guy with the te51 (although the frame issues he's having is making him want a te27 even more now) has a megasquirt ecu setup ready to go in (EFI) and a set of TWM adapters and ITB's to go on...

oh yeah, and i've already ridden in it while we were behind one of the fastest n/a ae86's in WA state.... and we kept up! (the 51 is still carb'd as of now...)

ok, if your buddy is running a fully built NA 2T motor, why would he go EFI? you can squeeze out as much hp and torque out of a carb-d 2T with less headache as much as a quad throttle EFI set-up. i don't get it. please explain more why. and on your first post, i doubt that the TE51 "is the HEAVIEST corolla ever made". maybe you meant of all the TEs and KEs corolla, hehehehe

***falnfenix*** · 05-30-2004, 03:23 AM

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Originally posted by micro214_kp61
V6? why go domestic when you can go all out toyota? V6 tacoma engine swap, baby or better yet... V8 Tundra power (dunno if it's gonna fit!) then supercharged that sucka!

because i know ford motors best out of any motor out there...and they're cheap to get.

not to mention, if you break something, ford motors are basically plug-and-play with other ford parts...so repairs are cheap and easy.

i've done toyota motor swaps, i've done domestic motor swaps...this would be my first hybrid swap...and if i'm going to do it myself, i'd rather do it with something cheap first...so if i break something in the motor i'm not as pissed off about it. knowing me, i'll swap in at least 2 or 3 other motors before i'm truly finished with it.

SmokingTires · 05-30-2004, 07:15 AM

Toyota V6 don't put out the same as Domestic V6. Drop a SHO engine in it. 3.2L (or the 3.0L from the manual) Yamaha with a DOHC. 220hp. Those things are beasts! And it would still be import.

toyotaspeed90: Man, that's pretty mean to point out that you don't think her car choice is the best.

micro214_kp61 · 05-30-2004, 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by SmokingTiresV6
Toyota V6 don't put out the same as Domestic V6. Drop a SHO engine in it. 3.2L (or the 3.0L from the manual) Yamaha with a DOHC. 220hp. Those things are beasts! And it would still be import.

toyotaspeed90: Man, that's pretty mean to point out that you don't think her car choice is the best.

i have to agree, YAMAHA built/designed motors are very good, i'm using one on my toyota. and those SHO kicks ass man and aren't they also supercharged?

btw, i don't think toyotaspeed90 was trying to be mean. it was just a mere comment coz a lot of old schoolers choose the "mango" TE27 over any TE/KE corollas coz of its weight. we all know that falnfenix's weapon of choice can also be lightened but it'll take more work.

falnfenix... i hear you, DOMESTICS either you love it or hate it puts
big hp numbers. and that's the bottom line if you're doing straight line. but it's not the engine swap i'm worried about with what you're trying to do. i wanna see how you'll strengthen the chassis. that'd be a good sticky here if you share the secrets, hehehe. anyways, goodluck to all!

***falnfenix*** · 05-30-2004, 10:46 AM

heh...thanks for your support guys.

i wouldn't sticky this, however...i really don't know when this will happen. if it does happen anytime in the next few years, i'm sure i'll still be here and i'll make sure to do a photo post of everything that happens.

SmokingTiresV6 - i was thinking the SHO motor...i know where i could get one for fairly cheap refurbed, so that is a good idea...or the 3.1L from the 92 cavy Z24...because those suckers were bulletproof, almost. hell, if i can get my hands on a manual drop top Z from either 92 or 93 i'm jumping on it...i know quite a few from those years who are hitting well over 200k miles

Micro - i love a challenge...and TOyotaspeed basically sealed the deal on which one i'm going to end up doing. i HATE when someone says i "shouldn't" do something...because, when it comes to cars, if i know it can be done that means it will be done.

SmokingTires · 05-30-2004, 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by micro214_kp61
falnfenix... i hear you, DOMESTICS either you love it or hate...

I love both

I'd take an SVT Cobra over a Supra, but I rather skip both and drop the cash into my Camry

And no, sadly SHO's don't come supercharged. However with a stage 3 kit they put down right around 400hp.

falnfenix: The 3.2 would be your best bet for accel and anything else you could want. They will put down most anything considering they year. And the custom DOHC design is insane (I assume since you know Fords you already know this, but I'll say it anyways). It runs the single cam, but when it hits high RPM the second cam opens up and give massive power gains. Those things almost sound like V8s

But if your looking for something else, 94' taurus had a 3.8L (but due to limitations it didn't put out amazing). Or even maybe consider something out of a focus? They're small, but with the supercharge kit they put down some big numbers

You;ll have to help me out a little, I don't exactly know what the size of the engine by is on the car your looking at. (pics?)

***falnfenix*** · 05-30-2004, 04:28 PM

heh...engine bay size means little. stretching is always an option.

hell...if i still had my V8 mustang motor, i'd shove that in there. sure i'd have to do some body work...custom fenders, etc...and sure i'd have to REALLY strengthen the body...and suspension...but NO ONE would ever expect to see it happen.

i like challenges like that

SmokingTires · 05-30-2004, 11:27 PM

^
hehehehe Reminds me of the Cobra/Focus conversion mmmmm....

Please stop talking cars. Your making me drool. Girl, Mustang, having Mustang. *chocking on own drool* oops! Sorry. We may have to talk more

Overall, I think the SHO would be the best for your money. You can get them cheap too. My bro picked up his with 122,000 for $4,000. And that was the full car. And there is always the V8 SHO engine.

Hmmm... trying to think of more good V6's. Being 11:30pm doesn't make it easier.

This sounds like it's gonna be really cool when it gets up and going. You'll have to keep me updated. I'll try to think of some other engines that would work well.