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Old 08-27-2004, 07:58 PM   #16 (permalink)
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well like chris said, everyone said the same thing for the same reason. to help.

if youre looking for something extremely unique, youll never find it.

everyone who sets up their car starts with exactly the same thing: intake > headers > exhaust system.

no way to get around that. it makes your car breathe easier and paves the way towards future mods, whatever they may be.

like i said, n/a or turbo, s/c or tt, you should follow the light tuning guide... if not verbatim then close. read the information and understand why 2-1/4" inch piping is better than 3".

these guides are made by pros, so in turn, theyre priceless.
good information is priceless, AND FREE, and should not be ignored.

thats it, good luck on tuning your car.
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Old 08-27-2004, 09:58 PM   #17 (permalink)
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**whew, long posts guys! i must say this first, Chris, you rock for not blowing up in this thread, too much hatred and ignorance in here!**

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My main motivation is to do something that not alot of other people have done.
your motivation is good but everything you can think of someone might have tried it already, unless you invent something then that's the only time you'll stand out.


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This is why I chose the Corolla, besides being a great car, not alot of these are being used on the streets as racers....most ppl have Honduhs, Shitsubishi's and Stuporbu's.....I don't see alot of Toyota's or Nissan's.....I wanted to stand out....
in Jersey? you gotta be kidding me. you know how many Corollas from KEs to AEs i've seen in Jersey the last i was there? a lot. so unless you have an F20 (S2000) on an AE86 then you won't stand out... oh, wait that's been done too!

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I don't feel that a car as small as this needs 300+ HP. I figured on swapping out to a silvertop 20v, that jumps me immediately to 165hp from 120hp. Now, if I rework the cams, intake, exhaust, and all that happy stuff then I'll be up to I guessed around 220hp. I'm probably overshooting but oh well....Thats where I wanna be....I said it repeatedly....I DO NOT WANT A FULL OUT RACECAR!!!!!!!!!!! I want something thats fast but I can still take on the road...thsi is my daily driver....
whatever you're smoking i want some.... Chris and MR1 already pointed this out, no way in hell the 20V silvertop produces 160hp. i'd be lucky if i get 120whp on mine (stock). and just for arguments sake (and no one has even said anything about this yet so i'll do it), let's say your car now is laying 200whp, have you ever thought of how much chassis reinforcements you need, plus the brakes and suspension? buddy you're talking a lot of hp for a car that came out of the factory intended for just a mere 90/100whp.


89TweenKam... my friend i know what you're going through, a lot of us went through the same. we all learned and some like me the hard way. i went as far as going with carbs to going back to EFI. trust me the reason some of us are giving this to you straight up is so you can see through our eyes what it takes to reach your goal. NO ONE here will disagree with me when i say NOTHING is IMPOSSIBLE but how much are you willing to spend just make a point? FYI, i don't know how you're gonna drive a 200whp on the road, with the stop and go traffic.

ask yourself this... how much hp are those guys running on the professional circuit with NA rides? and how much do i need to spend to do the same thing? there's a big reason why those guys get big time sponsors you know. i can tell you one thing, i you don't believe me, just go down to Englishtown when they have an event and ask the Puerto Ricans with Starlets and Corollas why did they go FI instead of just NA? PEACE bro!
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Old 08-27-2004, 11:48 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: No turbo part 2

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Ok so now the question becomes if I do go with a 4AGZE or 4AGE 20-valve and do an engine swap, can either of these bolt right up to the stock 5-speed in there now? because I will be able to buy an engine or a tranny, not both at the same time.....and if I go with the engine the nI wanna still be able to drive the car around while I get more cash for the tranny and others....I can get a 4AGE 20vavle silver top for about $700 or a 4AGZE for about the same price...
I got this off topic asking about a side comment.

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Old 08-28-2004, 05:48 PM   #19 (permalink)
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forgetting all the other bashing and etc.. the most naturally aspirated hp you're gonna get out of a 16V 4AGE, and that's considering this will require extensive amounts of work and swapping some parts for high performance (cams, pistons, etc) will probably be about 200hp at the wheels or about 250hp advertised. Its been done but at a cost, there's a man in my city.. just outside of Toronto who does work on 4AGE's and he did some motors for racing that where advertised to be about 250hp.
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