Ae86 Please Read Need Info

[hachi_slow]

^ are you basing this on comparisons on a track?

[knuckleduster]

nope, just my own experiences on backroads and empty parking lots.

[1985rollasr5]

i have a sr5 and its great. and its pushing alot more then 80 hp. they are just as good as a gts in my mind. but i have never drove a gts so i wouldnt know but i have seen them and the track and i bet i can keep up with them. i can drift the hell out of mind u just got to know how to drive them. and if ur dick is the size of that carb u need to be in porns screwing women not fucking around in this site, the carbs is more then 3 in wide i bet thats how big ur dick is long, but im not here to start up anything so im sorry but its all what u want and can afford to buy sr5 is good to start off but the only thing better then the sr5 is the rear disk breaks,the lsd, and its FI motor, thats about it. im sorry didnt mean to makr fun of u whoever said their dick is bigger then the carb but u have to remember that the V8's have bigger carbs b/c they r V8's but u cut them in half they are the size of the ones in the sr5. any way if u have the money go with the gts. SORRY

[jabdrifter]

reasons why sr5 suck

1. not as many required spot welds on chassis as gts, decreasing handling, and increasing body roll
2. carbed, uneven gas distribution to each cylinder (restrains hp), which is why they eventually made everything FI
3. slow, economical hp, but not track/drift worthy
4. stock suspension is teh suck compared to stock gt-s do to bouncier springs, and slightly (mm wise) taller shocks
5. no lsd, whoever says they can drift an sr5 good, well, or better than a gts is not correct to be polite. try a precision: powerover, feint, or liftoff without lsd and you'll have to REALLY oversteer in order to start the drift, and then body roll the whole way out
6. no rear disc brakes: try an ebrake drift with drums. really, go for it. the difference between drums and disc is this
drums=drag, f-up, break apart under pressure, no friction=loss of control
discs=drift, WORK PERFECT, slight friction at all times to prevent loss of control
7. power/weight ratio is way off: flooring it the whole way on track is the only way to get it to run properly- but even then it can't keep up with GT-s, cause gt-s tops higher, revs higher, is faster, handles better, rolls less, and is the shit

and about the carb being smaller than my dick

i didnt want to brag but you said it correct
i do have a 3 in wide ****
and to length- ask your ______- ill be nice and just finish with this

by carb being small i was refering to the butterfly in the carb that allows the air in- it is small- therefore restricking air flow- nothing more nothing less

and sombody else said that all an sr5 is missing is lsd, disc brakes, and fi 16v
well add up the prices for all those parts
lsd- 100-1000
disc brakes- oem 200
16v plus install 150+ 300
wow minimum $450, max $1500
he should just save up the money and go woith a gt-s

that is all from me

[knuckleduster]

who gives a crap about drifting. corollas are fun to drive no matter what engines or drivetrain configurations they have. my sr5 had every bit of 70hp and i had more fun in it than most people ever will in gts's. it is not about speed or how much cash you have in aftermarket parts, but how much you enjoy driving your car.

initial d sucks.

[Kwanza]

Originally posted by jabdrifter
reasons why sr5 suck

1. not as many required spot welds on chassis as gts, decreasing handling, and increasing body roll

Not true... I've stripped both GTS and SR5 shells bare and they're essentially the same...

2. carbed, uneven gas distribution to each cylinder (restrains hp), which is why they eventually made everything FI

Ever heard of performance carbs? A lot of AE86 people go carbs on their 4AGs. Well tuned, carbs can be awesome...

3. slow, economical hp, but not track/drift worthy

I agree with this, mostly because the 4AC is not a performance oriented motor

4. stock suspension is teh suck compared to stock gt-s do to bouncier springs, and slightly (mm wise) taller shocks

Again, not true. The GTS's do have slightly thicker sway bars, but everything else is essentially the same...

5. no lsd, whoever says they can drift an sr5 good, well, or better than a gts is not correct to be polite. try a precision: powerover, feint, or liftoff without lsd and you'll have to REALLY oversteer in order to start the drift, and then body roll the whole way out

Again... not true. The reason the SR5 doesn't drift well is not because the lack of an LSD, but because the lack of power and torque. I can drift an open diff... just fine... it's just more difficult.

6. no rear disc brakes: try an ebrake drift with drums. really, go for it. the difference between drums and disc is this
drums=drag, f-up, break apart under pressure, no friction=loss of control
discs=drift, WORK PERFECT, slight friction at all times to prevent loss of control

Again, incorrect. Discs do have advantages, but that in no way makes drums bad. IF anything, heat dissapation is the only bad factor about drums.

7. power/weight ratio is way off: flooring it the whole way on track is the only way to get it to run properly- but even then it can't keep up with GT-s, cause gt-s tops higher, revs higher, is faster, handles better, rolls less, and is the shit

I don't think anyone has said the SR5 is better than the GTS... so what's your point?

and about the carb being smaller than my dick

i didnt want to brag but you said it correct
i do have a 3 in wide ****
and to length- ask your ______- ill be nice and just finish with this

by carb being small i was refering to the butterfly in the carb that allows the air in- it is small- therefore restricking air flow- nothing more nothing less

and sombody else said that all an sr5 is missing is lsd, disc brakes, and fi 16v
well add up the prices for all those parts
lsd- 100-1000
disc brakes- oem 200
16v plus install 150+ 300
wow minimum $450, max $1500
he should just save up the money and go woith a gt-s

that is all from me

You know what... you are really confused... comparing a performance engine like the 4AGE to its econo counter part. It's really rather lame... considering it proves nothing but the obvious... and also since you seem to know little about the motors, it makes you sound retarded trying to break things down for the rest of us who know nothing...

[freakenidiot]

you make carbs in general sound like a bad thing... i am sure i saw 2/7 of the featured 4AGE's were on Weber 45 DCOE carbs if you've seen the Best Motoring video focusing on the 86... i dont blame you for saying the stock carbs are bad for performance though.

by the way... where can you find/install a 16v for 300?
...and whats the difference in the weight ratios anyways?

[1985rollasr5]

thank u Kwanza
they are great and fun i love my 4ac