I have friend who has a AE86 fastback and he install an engine from a altezza and my word it feels good . But here is the fun part he is going slap a turbo on that baby. so that thing just pull like mad. i'll keep you all posted
I dunno, sounds like overkill to me, the handling will go to shit, there's gonna be so much weight in front. The corolla won't be the balanced, nimble little car it used to be. I'd think a gze or even a turbo'ed ge would be enough to improve the fun factor.
Let us know about that axle man. I have a 5mge i could swap in my corolla. Then again...it would through the cars balance way the hell off....but who cares if i could have a 5mge in a corolla, i will buy another AE86 for the gze!
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Originally posted by Alpha I dunno, sounds like overkill to me, the handling will go to shit, there's gonna be so much weight in front. The corolla won't be the balanced, nimble little car it used to be. I'd think a gze or even a turbo'ed ge would be enough to improve the fun factor.
the difference is not as big as some people like to believe. a 3S mated to a T50 in a 1S housing is only 6kilos heavier than a 4A + a T50
Originally posted by hachi_slow Tell us more about it and post some pics. What rear axle did you friend use? Celica Supra? Did he have to custom fabricate anything?
I need details.
Alvin... don't tell me that the ZE is getting too slow for you and now you're thinking of a bigger engine transplant? hehehehe!
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Originally posted by TRDemon I have friend who has a AE86 fastback and he install an engine from a altezza and my word it feels good . But here is the fun part he is going slap a turbo on that baby. so that thing just pull like mad. i'll keep you all posted
PJ Bonifacio did the same here in the US.
AE86 Levin with a Altezza front clip, turbocharged.
in my opinion:
why not just hunt for the altezza tranny instead of the whole front clip which is gonna cost you an arm and a leg. I would rather pick up an ST185 3sgte and custom mounts brackets and whatever and then bolt on the tranny, while running stand-alone.
Originally posted by hachi_slow ^ nah Mike. I'm just interested in his setup. I don't have a problem with the speed I receive from the gze, just that it doesn't rev like an NA ge.
....maybe turbo next year?...unless I get that KE35 that a friend's neighbour has.
Alvin, I'm convinced it's the GZE cams, I'm going to swap my NA cams in my car over the winter. The NA motor with the turbo ...felt just like the NA motor, except with a shit-load of torque, it would rev like no tomorrow. My 8.9:1 GZE block has better compression than my old NA block (compression test) and with the GZE cams it just feels like all the action happens before 3000 rpm, big surge of power, then the power band is just flat and boring all the way to 7k. I'd definitely take the NA cammed motor off the line, and make more torque, but the NA motor was much more fun, it just felt like it was pulling harder and harder all the way to redline.
Originally posted by neil85AE86 Alvin, I'm convinced it's the GZE cams, I'm going to swap my NA cams in my car over the winter. The NA motor with the turbo ...felt just like the NA motor, except with a shit-load of torque, it would rev like no tomorrow. My 8.9:1 GZE block has better compression than my old NA block (compression test) and with the GZE cams it just feels like all the action happens before 3000 rpm, big surge of power, then the power band is just flat and boring all the way to 7k. I'd definitely take the NA cammed motor off the line, and make more torque, but the NA motor was much more fun, it just felt like it was pulling harder and harder all the way to redline.
Neil
It's not the cams... it's just the nature of a forced induction motor. The engine will make a lot more torque, therefore you won't feel the high-end pull as much as you would with an n/a motor, which makes much less torque. FYI, the smallport 4AG uses the same camshaft profile as the 4AGZE.
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Originally posted by neil85AE86 Alvin, I'm convinced it's the GZE cams, I'm going to swap my NA cams in my car over the winter. The NA motor with the turbo ...felt just like the NA motor, except with a shit-load of torque, it would rev like no tomorrow. My 8.9:1 GZE block has better compression than my old NA block (compression test) and with the GZE cams it just feels like all the action happens before 3000 rpm, big surge of power, then the power band is just flat and boring all the way to 7k. I'd definitely take the NA cammed motor off the line, and make more torque, but the NA motor was much more fun, it just felt like it was pulling harder and harder all the way to redline.
Neil
Neil... i know a "guy" whose running a MAP ZE and he's going or already using bluetop cams. i guess this is the reason why eh?
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Originally posted by micro214_kp61 Neil... i know a "guy" whose running a MAP ZE and he's going or already using bluetop cams. i guess this is the reason why eh?
probably, it's a pretty popular swap;
Kwanza, I don't believe this statement, "FYI, the smallport 4AG uses the same camshaft profile as the 4AGZE." ..the power curves are just too different, boosted or not, the peaks should remain at the same RPM, probably higher if anything on a boosted engine since it probably has larger exhaust, so it would breath better on both intake and exhaust sides, and I don't care what it says somewhere on the web, if someone has an unopened OEM smallport NA motor I'd like to measure the cams. The smallport NA has higher HP peak rpm than a largeport NA motor which has higher lift and duration cams than a GZE, does the smallport breath that much better.. maybe.
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