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Old 12-20-2004, 10:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Auto to MTM simple or no?

I admit, i am starting to apreciate my 88 corolla more and more as i drive it. It's not a civic, and its not another bandwagon import car.

After doing some minor repairs to the car, it's been more suitable to me than my ol civic.

Question remains tho....im not really satisfied with my 3speed slush box, and was thinking for spring of the new year to source out a fairly good condition 5speed box for my car.

But is it hard to install this badboy myself? or would i need the aid of a shop to do such? [which isn't that hard to get BTW]

car=ae92 sedan
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Old 12-20-2004, 11:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Personally, I'd sell the slushbox car and go buy a 5-speed model. Wait 'til spring, clean it up, and sell it to someone who would appreciate the auto. Then go on the hunt for a 5-speed! It would be alot easier. Even the ECM on the auto cars is different from the manual, and that is porbably not the only problem you would run into. The C50 manual box on the AE92 Corollas is not the best tranny in the world, but is adequate. The automatic Corollas are not hard to sell, and 5-speed cars are plentiful and cheap. You might also consider stepping up to a '90-'92 model, as they have fuel injection and a few more horsepower. Regards, Aaron
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Old 12-21-2004, 01:13 AM   #3 (permalink)
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there's electronics in my carburated car's transmission?

i thought it was all done by vacuum pressure?
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Old 12-21-2004, 01:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
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OOPPSS! Sorry, forgot yours was a carb. Still, it would be a pain to swap. I'd just find a 5-speed car. Regards, Aaron
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Old 12-21-2004, 01:37 AM   #5 (permalink)
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thing is, i cant justify spending 5 grand on a low mileage car that maynot be the same in regards to engine reliability as the currrent car im driving.

intial purchase of this greay sedan = 1000 CDN
headgasket and major seal change = 300 CDN
misc peices to keep car up and running = 500CDN

still cheaper than going out to find a 5 speed EFI model....i think?
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Old 12-21-2004, 02:32 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Wow...some people are FOS.

DON'T sell your car and try to find a manual car. I was told the same shit, but figured it was hogwash...and of course, it was.

I think it cost me a grand total of $300 to do an auto -> manual conversion. Whew...lots of manual Corollas selling for that much

Try and source a C52 box. Sure, people say it's garbage, but I've yet to have problems with it. In fact, it's coupled to my AE101 4AGZE at the moment. Just don't feel the need to powershift every gear and you'll be alright. But then again, how much torque can the 4A-F deliver

Anyways, I've got a pictorial on Corolla-Racing:

http://www.corolla-racing.com/script...num=1084582251

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Old 12-21-2004, 02:37 AM   #7 (permalink)
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there's always c50's in junkyards... you could get the needed parts other than the tranny, then find a c52 in a gts
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Old 12-21-2004, 02:40 AM   #8 (permalink)
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for 300 bucks, i can definately do that, and have a decent weekend project with me and a few of my car friends.

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Old 12-21-2004, 02:41 AM   #9 (permalink)
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auto to manual conversions are fairly easy ?
il assume you have the 4A engine, which is the 1600 Carby,
it might be a wiseable upgrade, depending on your mechanical knowledge to go for a higher spec engine, im not sure what the laws over there are, but something like the 4A-GZE(supercharged) of even just the 4A-GE(1600 EFI N/A) which comes out also in the ae92 trueno, levins etc,
easiest thing to do is find a half cut or one being wrecked - might be harder for you coming from canada, im not sure if you get the imports as much as us in NZ, and just transfer everything over, its a relatively simple conversion if you take your time and have the money to finish it, otherwise just pay some like you said.

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Old 12-21-2004, 02:52 AM   #10 (permalink)
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yah its a 1600 carb'd car....

i dont plan on keeping this car for too too long, at least another 100k....and i still have to pay for some school *heh*

but speaking on a budget i woudnt mind doing this job at all.....it seems like something i would really WANT to do. Where as an engine swap and dealing with all sorts of elctronics is a little far fetched for me......well myself and my friends i'd drag into this job.
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Old 12-21-2004, 09:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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$5000 for an 88-92 Corolla?? Check trader.ca to see what they're going for in your area.. I'm sure they're not that bad.. Toronto area you see them for about $500-$4000.
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Old 12-21-2004, 11:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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well 5 large is an extreme and a savings goal if i were to scavange for a 92 corolla. Realizing that the 88+ are most likely cheaper, they could also have more abuse to the car that is unseen. So personally i feel safer if i were to find a low mileage 92, since they were the last year made.

As for looking for a coupe? I like the functionality of a 4 door now that i have one.
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Old 12-22-2004, 07:56 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by TekPhobia
Wow...some people are FOS.

DON'T sell your car and try to find a manual car. I was told the same shit, but figured it was hogwash...and of course, it was.

I think it cost me a grand total of $300 to do an auto -> manual conversion. Whew...lots of manual Corollas selling for that much

Try and source a C52 box. Sure, people say it's garbage, but I've yet to have problems with it. In fact, it's coupled to my AE101 4AGZE at the moment. Just don't feel the need to powershift every gear and you'll be alright. But then again, how much torque can the 4A-F deliver

Anyways, I've got a pictorial on Corolla-Racing:

http://www.corolla-racing.com/script...num=1084582251

Enjoy...

-Tim


Pay attention, Tek! I said he should sell his automatic first, dumbass, not try to find a car for the price of a transmission swap. Then, he could take that money in addition to what he would spend for the manual tranny conversion ($300, in your case), and combine those to buy a car that has a 5-speed and fuel-injection to begin with. My injected '90 was $1300 (it's mint), and it is not hard to find these for $1500-$2000, at least where I am. Toyota made millions of them. He should do himself a favor and find a car with a stick. If he found one at a car lot, they would probably trade him nearly even for his car, as auto cars are easier for them to sell. Sixteen-year-old girls love them. Give the lot $300 and the '88, and he could probably get a deal on a decent '90-'91 5-speed car. Or, go to an auto auction...you can't walk through one without tripping over ten of these cars.

Besides, why in the hell would he want the carbed 4A-F anyway?! Even with the 5-speed, it is not a very strong engine, and I assume improved performance/mileage is what he is looking for with the 5-speed swap. The FE is a much more reliable and fuel efficient motor. Has a few more horespower, too. Still, if he wants to put that kind of work into a car that is not really worth it, go right ahead. Unless he knows what he is doing, I'd just get a manual car. Otherwise, he is liable to have alot of bloody knuckles and a car that will have to be towed to the junkyard...with no transmission. Swapping manual-to-manual is a pain in the ass even if you know what you are doing, nevermind going auto-to-manual. Plus, if he misconnects even ONE of the million vacuum hoses that are on the 4A-F when putting the car back together, the damn thing won't run at all!

I agree that the C52 should be used if he is going to do this. They are much stouter and much less likely to need a rebuild if found used. In a GT-S like Tekphobia's , I can understand taking on a trans swap. The GT-S is a harder car to find and is more expensive. Plus, a stick really brings out the performance of the GE/GZE engines. But in a carbed sedan? Are you serious?! And powershifting a 4A-F?!? GTF outta here!! You could do this swap, Tek. So could I. But if this guy listens to you, he is going to be W-A-L-K-I-N-G!! Regards, Aaron

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Old 12-22-2004, 08:49 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I agree that the C52 should be used if he is going to do this. They are much stouter and much less likely to need a rebuild if found used. In a GT-S like Tekphobia's , I can understand taking on a trans swap. The GT-S is a harder car to find and is more expensive. Plus, a stick really brings out the performance of the GE/GZE engines. But in a carbed sedan? Are you serious?! And powershifting a 4A-F?!? GTF outta here!! You could do this swap, Tek. So could I. But if this guy listens to you, he is going to be W-A-L-K-I-N-G!! Regards, Aaron

Actually, I've got an AE92 sedan

And I'll restate..if you DON'T feel the need TO power shift, then a C52 (despite its shortcomings) will last a while.

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Actually, I've got an AE92 sedan

And I'll restate..if you DON'T feel the need TO power shift, then a C52 (despite its shortcomings) will last a while.

-Tim

Wow! A 4A-GZE sedan! That must be a WILD ride! With no powershifting or other abuse, the readily available C50 would probably be okay, too. If a low-mile one could be found, that is. Still say a car swap would be better for this guy than a trans swap. Regards, Aaron
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