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Old 01-24-2005, 07:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy 4 snow tires and still slippin and slidin

MY 2005 corolla le is sliding all over in the snow. Is it because the car is so lite? I have 4 snow tires siempert sport grip snows.. Any suggestions for more tracktion in the snow? My old Honda Accord never had this problem.............
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Old 01-24-2005, 08:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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siempert sport grip snows?? never heard of them... maybe this is the problem.. should've stuck to better known tires. Also put some weight on the back end.. a couple of 25kg salt or sand bags will do.
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Old 01-25-2005, 12:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 01-25-2005, 01:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
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siempert sport grip snows?? never heard of them... maybe this is the problem.. should've stuck to better known tires. Also put some weight on the back end.. a couple of 25kg salt or sand bags will do.
Me thinks that the sand bag in the trunk theory from years gone by applies only to rear wheel drive autos, unless you want to throw them on top of your engine or hood my opinion is that you got some bad/wrong tires..as you live in N Y and I live in Ohio we get most probably the same type weather...I went from my original stock integrity's(real crap tires) to BFG traction T/A H rated tires last Oct and it is a great tire for all weather and at a reasonable cost (sams club 4 tires- $310 out the door with road hazard) Tip I went to a 205-65-15 size in this tire because it has an extra thread on the tire...fits great preforms great, nuf said ......Radd guy.....
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Old 01-25-2005, 01:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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slipn and sliding lol try a rear wheel drive BMW o my god scary in snow

My favorite cars are german so i learn to drive mine slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww in rain and snow. If your not happy with 05 corolla then get a Jeep wrangler dude. You might want to try studded snow tires.
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Old 01-25-2005, 01:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Raddman, 205's???? why? as a general rule a narrower tire is better in the snow it cuts through it rather thaqn plowing it and working like skiis but to each there own aand if it works for you great!! Could be the tires never heard of that brand either but all in all I agree with flashmnn well kinda, not saying you don't know how to drive but winter driving has lots of little tricks and keys that many people should learn. Stepm one would be HAND BRAKE, HAND BRAKE, HAND BRAKE!!!!!!!! it is an awesome tool in the snow in any front drive vehicle learn how to use it go to an empty lot and have fun in the snow you will learn quick.
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Old 01-25-2005, 01:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
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handbraking in traffic is a way to cause accidents...
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Old 01-25-2005, 03:37 PM   #8 (permalink)
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"Learn to drive" I need not respond to that comment. It is not neccessary. you may be lacking in other areas,and a comment like that makes you feel superior. To each is own. I was simply comparing the traction to my 2002 Accord. From what I understand these are very good snow tires made in Germany. They are sold at STS auto centers. My feeling is the car must be too light to get good traction compared to my Honda. All sarcasic posters need not respond. thanks j
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Snow works well when there are snow. Not when its slushy and wet. In fact a good set of wet traction tire will be best. All season with got wet traction will be good.
Maybe its driving after all. Corolla has a torquey engine compare to the Accord, unless you got V6. Its easy to kick it lose in wet and snow. Gotta be very sensitive on the padel.
Also isince the Corolla is lighter, you'll need narrower tire. If you got same size as the Accord, that's maybe why.
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Old 01-25-2005, 04:20 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Good point. Low end torque is a big factor. Accords (inline 4s) usually develop their peak torque at high rpms so the torque at low end is barely enough to get their substantially heavy 3000 lbs + weight. Do you have a manual or auto?? Getting a manual off the line is harder without wheel spin on snow than an auto since the auto has a torque converter and the clutch is not controlled by the driver.
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Old 01-25-2005, 05:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yes good point Pineapple and I agree with the narrower tires part as I mentioned really breifly in my post. And flashmn, as for your comment about hand breaking in traffic being away of causeing accidents, I have avoided sliding into oposite traffic with the handbreak used properly will start or stop a rear end slid, when trying to go around a corner in slippery conditions in a front drive vehile a slight touch of the hand break with proper acceleration and speed will slide the back end into the turn and help negotiate the turn, also if the back end starts to slide away from you into another lane a slight hand brake touch with steering away from the slide will straighten you out. And yes JasonToy was right your learn how to drive comment was completely uncalled for a driving tip that you may know that he doesn't is understandable, but with your comment about the handbrke causing accidents I am wondering if you even know haw to drive. I grew up in Northern Ontario Canada where from Early November till Late march early April we had no less than 6inches of snow on the ground and I hand brake all the time and do it properly, that combined with good snows, Narow tires, Downshifting, proper acceleration and speed management I have absolutely no problems negotiating in the winter, and have been complimented on my ability to get around and avoid possible accidebnts in the winter. So if you don't know what you are talking about please save your negative rude comments, we don't want to hear them. we are here to try to help each other with situations they may not know about by sharing what we know not by be littling people.
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Old 01-25-2005, 06:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Raddman, 205's???? why? as a general rule a narrower tire is better in the snow it cuts through it rather thaqn plowing it and working like skiis but to each there own aand if it works for you great!! Could be the tires never heard of that brand either but all in all I agree with flashmnn well kinda, not saying you don't know how to drive but winter driving has lots of little tricks and keys that many people should learn. Stepm one would be HAND BRAKE, HAND BRAKE, HAND BRAKE!!!!!!!! it is an awesome tool in the snow in any front drive vehicle learn how to use it go to an empty lot and have fun in the snow you will learn quick.
First of all 10mm doesn't make that much of a difference(my rolla s calls for a 195-65-15) and with the great gripping tread design this tire has the wider is the better as I don't live in the mountains or Canada where you constantly are driving in a foot or more of snow in -20F...we get that deep of snow maybe 4-5 times a year and the rest is wet slush/ice or under 5 inches of snow where the wider the tire the better the traction (meaning more surface grip) driving on a narrower tire as you suggest Jay is in my opinion like driving on 4 pizza cutters.. Hey but drive on what you want big guy...your the expert. ..Radd-Guy

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Old 01-25-2005, 06:34 PM   #13 (permalink)
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LOL Raddman ya I understand what you are saying about the tires you have if the tread is good and it is more wet slush and stuff. then that makes sense,m here when we get dumped on we get 3-6inches at a time so you want something to cut through it, but like I said earlier if it works for you great and we are all in different areas so what you say is true for your climate.
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Old 01-25-2005, 06:43 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I originally was going to buy those semperit tires. They are high quality tires made in Germany by Continental. Discount tire was out and subbed my Hankook IceBears. Even with these $100 a pop tires it is hard to get moving in my XRS in snow. The car is insanely light and has a lot of power for such a light car. Even your LE has a high power/weight ratio. Just go slow, besides getting moving I have found that I cannot get my XRS to slide around.
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Old 01-25-2005, 09:37 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Finally! Other drivers that find the car to lite!!! I totally understand where your coming from man. I've personally got my punching bag in my trunk(60kg) cause i'm usually driving by myself.....trying putting a bag of sand or salt in the passenger side (if no ones sitting there), it helps balance the car out a bit.

although its front wheel, the added weight in the back kinda holds down your back end so your whole car doesn't move, it more so pivets a bit...i find it helps..but to each their own.

dont' know if its auto or stick, but i just tap the gas with mine to get mine going in the snow.

I got the stock all seasons and those are horrible....
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