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Old 03-15-2005, 07:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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4age 20v vs b18 swap

My brother is recommeding this guy to do my 4age 20v swap for me. He said he has done a b18 swap on a civic hatchback. I did some research and I think (just an opinion) the B18 swap is more complicated than the 4age 20 v swap. Do you think I can go with this guy to do the swap since he has done the B18 swap? How difficult is the wiring? Is there any referrence I can read so I can understand this more. If I have this guy do the swap I want to be there to make sure I can give him everything he needs to do the wiring etc.
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Old 03-15-2005, 07:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm confused, are you trying to put a 20v into a civic? or b18 into a corolla, lol.
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Old 03-15-2005, 07:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm confused, are you trying to put a 20v into a civic? or b18 into a corolla, lol.
I am also very confused.
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Old 03-15-2005, 07:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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you guys don't read.. he's trying to get a 20V swap done by someone who has done B18 swaps before... is that more understandable??

Toyota and Honda motors are not the same.. the basics of engine swapping might be, but a 20V and a B18 will be different when it comes down to wiring and installation... you decide.. if you think he can do it.. then hey!
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Old 03-15-2005, 08:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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well id say go for it... if he knows how to do a complete swap Harness/ECU and motor... i dont think he will have a problem as long as everything is complete and everything is their but if u have a cut harness or sumthing he might have a prob with figuring out whats what... i agree with Ren69 said
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Old 03-15-2005, 10:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
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toyota and honda are very different...... there's a CRX in our garage that just doesn't want to start (d15 vtec) after doing the swap.... i've helped a bit in trying to figure out the wiring (but since i didn't help initially i don't quite understand it's issues).... in any case, i was able to get my mr2 up and finished before he got the crx running on a stock ecu..... it all depends in what they know
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Old 03-15-2005, 11:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hondas are way way easier than Toyotas. Most hondas share all major plugs and harnesses, so they're very plug and play. Toyotas are very different between models, chassis, generations, etc.
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Old 03-15-2005, 11:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hondas are way way easier than Toyotas. Most hondas share all major plugs and harnesses, so they're very plug and play. Toyotas are very different between models, chassis, generations, etc.
Word. A B18 swap in NO WAY compares to a 20v swap. The B18 is plug and play minus a couple of wires (litereally like two), the 20v needs a FULL CUSTOM HARNESS.
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Old 03-16-2005, 12:46 AM   #9 (permalink)
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thanks guys. Im trying to plan this out carefully. Im trying to make the swap as easy as possible. Do you think an aftermarket ecu and harness would do the trick? I saw it in this site. www.20v4age.com
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Word. A B18 swap in NO WAY compares to a 20v swap. The B18 is plug and play minus a couple of wires (litereally like two), the 20v needs a FULL CUSTOM HARNESS.
no... not really.... just use the complete harness that comes with the 20V and ecu obviously..... then all you need to do is add positive and ignition positive to the ecu..... then you just need to wire stuff from your gauges to your dash.... ie, tach (from ignitor or coil), oil pressure, voltage etc..... and then run your body harness wiring to some accessories on the engine, ie starter & alternator....
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Word. A B18 swap in NO WAY compares to a 20v swap. The B18 is plug and play minus a couple of wires (litereally like two), the 20v needs a FULL CUSTOM HARNESS.
you ONLY need full custom harness when there's no harness that came with the motor. as long as it's uncut and complete, stock harness is fine!
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Old 03-18-2005, 08:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Even if the harness is cut...hit the junkyard and find the connectors for the ECU! (I found mine in a Nissan) Then all you have to do is extend the wires to reach the ECU from what is left of the old harness!


Sounds kinda scary...I know. But it's actually not that bad.


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Old 03-18-2005, 04:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
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What type of car you putting the 4AGE 20V?
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Old 03-19-2005, 01:51 AM   #14 (permalink)
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When you buy your 20v; make sure you get a complete front clip. Engine& tranny with uncut harness, ECU, and MAF or MAP sensor. Then take both harnesses; the one from your old engine, and one from your recently purchased engine and send them to Dr. Tweak and let him build you a harness. That will be the easiest and cheapest and way for you to have a good engine that is virtually plug and play. Then basically all YOU have to do is drop in the engine and it should bolt up without to much headache. Good Luck.
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