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Old 05-24-2005, 02:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone experience with or knowledge of swapping a 1ZZ-FE from a 2000 AE102 into a 1996 AE102 (with current 7A-FE)?
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Old 05-24-2005, 03:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It hasn't been done that I know of, but it wouldn't be bad. One or two of the mounts might need to be modified (though now that I think of it, they may very well be the same), and of course the wiring would be the biggest issue. Other than that it's just the exhaust you have to worry about.

I guess the issue is that you might as well get a 4AGE, since it would be cheaper and give you better performance.

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Old 05-24-2005, 04:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'd swap in a 2ZZ-GE. 190hp
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Old 05-24-2005, 09:45 AM   #4 (permalink)
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If you have a 7AFE, I would try to boost it first. Very easy, and can easily run low 14s before blowing up (seen an auto 4AFE run low 14s, blew up at 15psi)
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Old 05-24-2005, 03:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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There could be clearance issues with the 1ZZ/2ZZ exhaust manifold since it faces the firewall, unlike A-series engines that bolt straight in.

1st to 3rd gen 3SGE also fit nicely, these engines are easy to find and don't cost much. They come with close ratio transmissions with 150-160hps and lots of torque. Passenger side engine mount needs to be fabricated, but once that's done you'll have the option of 3SGTE later on.

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Old 05-24-2005, 03:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I wish I had a 3SGTE...BTW I thought 2 of the mounts needed to be modified? Also I don't know what axles/hubs to use (I think 5SFE Camry Tranny, axles, and Celica hubs?) and don't know how to hook up the shift linkages.
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Old 05-24-2005, 11:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
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There could be clearance issues with the 1ZZ/2ZZ exhaust manifold since it faces the firewall, unlike A-series engines that bolt straight in.

1st to 3rd gen 3SGE also fit nicely, these engines are easy to find and don't cost much. They come with close ratio transmissions with 150-160hps and lots of torque. Passenger side engine mount needs to be fabricated, but once that's done you'll have the option of 3SGTE later on.

The exhaust manifold is the least of your problems! LOL

Nice 3SGE swap, that's a great option as well.
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:35 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Has anyone experience with or knowledge of swapping a 1ZZ-FE from a 2000 AE102 into a 1996 AE102 (with current 7A-FE)?
y would you wanna do that?? AE100 hav so much option to swap into...

1. 4E-FTE
2. 3S-GTE
3. 4A-GE 16v line up
4. 4A-GE 20v silver or blacktop
5. 4A-GZE
6. 3S-GE


what u should ask is hav anyone tried swaping the engines above into a 98-02 corolla cuz the chassis are basically the same...
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I found a low milage 1ZZ-FE at a very low price. My 7A-FE needs work. It still runs strong but is using a lot of oil. A rebuild would cost more than this izzy.

The izzy is a US engine and would work well with emissions, which in my part of Tennessee are checked via the ODBll port.
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I found a low milage 1ZZ-FE at a very low price. My 7A-FE needs work. It still runs strong but is using a lot of oil. A rebuild would cost more than this izzy.

The izzy is a US engine and would work well with emissions, which in my part of Tennessee are checked via the ODBll port.
engine definitely will fit but all the other stuff like engine mount, tranny, ecu, etc... stuff that you need in order to change over from a A-series engine to ZZ engine
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Old 05-25-2005, 03:21 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I'll betcha that the tranny will bolt up. If not you could swap over the bellhousing and then it would. I'll also betcha the mounts are the same or really close. Wiring and exhaust are all that's left

Plus all those other little things that come up
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Old 05-25-2005, 08:05 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I say just forget about trying to do the ZZ swap into an A-series car, unless you're up for some serious work.

Just go 4AGZE, if you want some easy balls...once you go boost, you never go back
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yeah ZZ engines hav not much potential and not much aftermarket support compared to the old A-series engine... plus the A series engine is more reliable than the ZZ engines
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Old 05-25-2005, 02:38 PM   #14 (permalink)
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1ZZ-FE from an AE102? very interesting....


but yeah, i'd just go for an A-series
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Old 05-25-2005, 03:28 PM   #15 (permalink)
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go with the newer motor.. like Derek said, the 3S-GE is a very good option! whatever you do, don't get the "jdm ONLY" motors like the 20Vs.. trust me! the last thing you want years down the road is to look for a timing belt or dizzy for those suckers! go USDM!
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