Re: Whats the differenece between Zenki And Kouki?
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Originally Posted by Trueno_Sprinter
I have a stock ae86 black... whats the first thing i should do?
and your question is asking kouki and zenki....you're not thinking of getting the bumpers are you?!?! :o
the first thing you should do is restore the car to its best condition, replace parts, fix the rust, and be prepared to spend $$$ often for maintainence....
get your "upgrades" slowly one by one, you'll "appreciate" them more...thats what i think..
oh and you might want to invest in performance before appearance....because AE86s are not exactly fast in today's standards...
"Comment: 5 spd., twin-cam 4A-GE. New eng., 2 owners, all records avail. No rust except on fenders, rear wheel drive, totally stock h/back. Super clean. Good as tofu delivery vehicle. 45,000 kms, $2,888. Call anytime, Markham, (416)358-0320. (CBWTVS) "
1985 COROLLA GTS COUPE, AE86.
Comment: 5 spd., AE86 newly painted white. JDM front, rear bumper. Long champs XR-4 rims, Advan. 032R racing tires, HKS muffler Koni shocks, TRD springs, eng. rebuild at 230,000. Nardi steeling wheels, int. removed, too many to list. Selling $8500 firm. Cert. & e-test. 280,000 km. Mark, mail me for more details, pic aceportmotor@yahoo.com (416)889-8801 (CBZQPC)
1985 COROLLA GTS COUPE, AE86.
Comment: 5 spd., AE86 newly painted white. JDM front, rear bumper. Long champs XR-4 rims, Advan. 032R racing tires, HKS muffler Koni shocks, TRD springs, eng. rebuild at 230,000. Nardi steeling wheels, int. removed, too many to list. Selling $8500 firm. Cert. & e-test. 280,000 km. Mark, mail me for more details, pic aceportmotor@yahoo.com (416)889-8801 (CBZQPC)
OMG!! COUPE!! WHITE!! KOUKIIIIIIIII!!! look at all those goodies!!!
but $8500....
and kouki bumper on a 1985...
add panda strips to the side of the car and he can sell it for 10k, cert and e-tested too
Well I've been a fan of 86 for a while (about right when Initial D came out and when I was getting sick of FWD and HONDAss)... and since i got the car... I've been learning tons of new things i never knew before... only now do I realize how much of a newbie I am...
well maintenance yes... but i got the car for a good 750.... and everything i want to upgrade is going to die soon... shocks and suspension differential, etc...
yes repairs are something I have a handful of... the wheel wells need to be done and the bottom floor pan has some spots i need to patch up...
does anyone know of a good repair garage??? in the Markham Area?
the rust on the side isn't taht bad compared to other cars I've seen on the road... but I know I must repair the floorpans to certify it for road use...
As for that white hachi with the kouki front... that's a friend of mine that's giving me connections with a parts importer...
ps... It's nice to find a forum where there are nice enough people and knowledgable ppl to respond to...
Do not assume just because the original purchase price is affordable that the Corolla GTS (LEVIN and TRUENO in Japan with chassis code of AE86) is an affordable car.
It may be new to you but the car has been transporting people in mundane traffic for more than 15 years to date. MANY MANY things will be failing often after purchase on a regular basis and with abuse much more often. If you are a DO-IT-YOURSELF mechanic, most repairs can be performed at home, and need not be horrific in cost... However, if you must rely on service from other people or business to fix major items, it can be VERY expensive to own. I generally run about $50-$150 per month on repairs alone on the average on part cost alone. Figure can easily triple if you pay for labor in each instance.
IF that upkeep is not your style, then it's probably not for you. Now 15 year old cars also have many items that doesn't necessarily fail and strand you somewhere?A but need to be refreshed before any sporting activities. This is a very extensive list of things as Corollas are so reliable in its first 10 years of service that no one really replaces them... The total refresh of basic items to bring the car's mechanical condition back to original new state (not including any cosmetic items) is about $2000~$5000 depending on the condition.
When you see a nice AE86 that's soaring nicely with the new cars in shiny paint, don't assume that it's a $2500 car... It's more likely a car that has over $6000 in replaced items and cosmetics over the initial purchase price.
So in summary... I wouldn't really consider an AE86 a CHEAP car by any means. Especially these days when this 15 year old Corollas fetch nearly $3000 on average?A only because of demand and lack of good examples in number.
Financing a new 2002 Corolla for the next 5 years and having warranty for the duration is MUCH cheaper in my opinion.
This is not to scare you from your intended purchase, just a thing or two you should know before considering any 15 year old car that you would intend to use in a manner of sports cars in its fullest enjoyable way.
Good Luck and think on this OK?
Oh and one more thing...
If your intention is learning to drive a car fast, this MAY be your car.
If on the other hand, your intention is to have a fast car, you may be in for a little disappointment... It takes quite a bit of money and custom fabrication to make them fast by today's standards. And I don't mean bolting on stuff either.
If you don't really understand what I just wrote, and feel you want to learn more... Well then you came to the right place, as some of the regular visitors will gladly show you how to enjoy and learn the joys of 'real' sport driving techniques and 'true' form of race car preparation...
General tone of this Club4AG community isn't really what's new in magazines or cosmetic and bolt-on marketing world. It's really about you and the car, and how you drive it at the limits well.
If all the above makes sense to you...then
welcome to your purchase of an ae86
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the first thing you should do, depending upon the condition of the body, chassis and engine is BASIC MAINTAINENCE STUFF
as in getting the car running as reliably as you possibly could.
replace ALL FLUIDS would be a good place to start.
next would be your brakes (if the calipers are seized, get em rebuilt. warped rotors = replace with new or have em machined) that is if you do intend to stop.
struts and springs, are they in working condition? handbrake cables? front / rear wheel bearings? alternator? timing belt? valve cover gasket? HEAD gasket? (hell you really want me to go on?)
next would be basic body work. if you got major rust problems, go get those fixed. it won't be cheap..but at least you won't have to drive like Fred Flintstone.
get that shit done before even asking about bumpers that are available overseas
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i would even take it one step further and just rebuild the brakes regardles...unless they seem fairly new and they were rebuilt recently. but why take chances.
when it comes to engine work, cahnge all the seals and gaskets. most likely they are worn and cracked. besides, its always the $0.50 part that will cause you the most headaches.
if you are planning on keeping the car for a while and want to preserve it, do the body work right. it might cost thousands of dollars, but its worth it. trust me, bondo aint worht shit.
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