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Old 08-09-2005, 02:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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AE86 sr5 engine troubles

i bought a 85 ae86 sr5, yea i know sr5's suck, but it was 500$ and it was intended for a motor swap later in it life anyways, and the second reason for the sr5 is insurance i am only 16 so the cheaper insurance the better. so ig ot the the car not running and i know it has an ignition problem. the car will fire right up, and run great for about 5 minutes or so maybe longer at times, and it will idle and be fine, but then all of a sudden out of no were it will die, shut itself off. it doesnt sputter and die, it shuts it self off. Then i try to start it again and i get NO SPARK, none, nothing, will not fire it turns over but no spark. i come back the next day, starts up just fine runs and does the same thing. i have got it down to something in the ignition and computer systems. what it is i dont know? i cant figure it out, wether it is in the distribitor? the computer? or the ignition itself. were would i start by looking? and i have a limited budget and i dont want to have to take it to a mechanic, but if i have to i will.
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Old 08-09-2005, 07:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, first off.. the car is carburated, so that rules out computer problems. I think either the carburator needs a rebuild or the fuel pump is going. My bet is on the carb though as it sounds like its probably flooding itself.. but it could still be the fuel pump if its cutting out and eventually it works again.
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ok but it doesnt sound like a sputter, as it would if it ran out of fuel, it sounds like the car was shut off using the key, and i compared the dieing sound to the turning off the key and they are exactly alike. and i checked after it dies i checked the spark and it has no spark after it shuts off.. so thats y i figure cdomputer becuase of no spark, and it dosent smell flooded at all, and i checked if it gets fuel also and after it dies and you crank it over, then it floods it self out, so it has to be computer becuase of it not have any spark.
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Carbed cars have no computer.. that was my point.

I used to have a similar problem on an old carbed 87 Civic.. I'd be on the highway and it would shut itself off out of nowhere.. turns out the ignition switch had a wire contact that wasn't soldered properly so when it was touching the car ran fine, as soon as it came off, the car would lose all power and die.
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if my car doesnt have a computer, why does it have all the sensors and all the wiring for a computer? i was told by a mechanic it was computerized, just didnt have much of a brain for a computer. but i also thought it was in the collom and when i hit somethign wrong way or whatever it was killing it, that happened to my freinds truck you could pull the collom to shut it off and push to start. might check that out.
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i bought a 85 ae86 sr5, yea i know sr5's suck, but it was 500$ and it was intended for a motor swap later in it life anyways, and the second reason for the sr5 is insurance i am only 16 so the cheaper insurance the better. so ig ot the the car not running and i know it has an ignition problem. the car will fire right up, and run great for about 5 minutes or so maybe longer at times, and it will idle and be fine, but then all of a sudden out of no were it will die, shut itself off. it doesnt sputter and die, it shuts it self off. Then i try to start it again and i get NO SPARK, none, nothing, will not fire it turns over but no spark. i come back the next day, starts up just fine runs and does the same thing. i have got it down to something in the ignition and computer systems. what it is i dont know? i cant figure it out, wether it is in the distribitor? the computer? or the ignition itself. were would i start by looking? and i have a limited budget and i dont want to have to take it to a mechanic, but if i have to i will.

Could be that you have a bad ignition coil. It could function till it gets warm and then die out . That would account for the no spark situation.
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Old 08-10-2005, 05:33 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Might not be the coil but rather the ignition module, which is inside the distributor housing.
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my first thing was to check the coil and all the insides of the distribitor. i havent really had the engine or anything apart. i did replace a tempature sensor.

i will check out the coil, and it does sound right for not having any spark.

the igntion module, what exactly would i be looking for, and is it easy to replace?
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why would anyone think an sr5 sucks? they look better than most crap out on the road today. we had one that lasted for ages so it didnt suck for us.
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sr5s r the shit man. i have 2 sr5s lol. but check the coil. it could be a list of shit like always. without seeing it and being about to muck with things i cant tell u. but if it turns out to be anything in the wiring i have a hole wiring harness that i can sale u cheap.
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Carburated cars don't have ECUs...

Wrong. But I didn't think ours did, so I took a walk outside(just now) and examined underneath the hood of MY 1987 carburated Corolla SR5 looking for sensors. Found a coolant temp sensor, big deal, it's for an idiot light. Oil pressure sensor, another idiot light. Lets take a look at the exhaust...what do we have here sticking out of the manifold? None other than an O2 sensor! BINGO!

Even though 90% of the gadgetry under the hood is vaccuum controlled, the carburator does have a solenoid on it, and there are multiple wires plugged into the distributer.

Although toyota_ae86_sr5 has horrible grammar, punctuation, and doesn't use spell check, he is right.

Wish I had some advice for your stalling issue, but it's obviously related to heat. The first thing you should do with a car this old anyways is get a new ditributor cap, spark plugs and wires. This might fix the issue. Best of luck man!
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:25 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Wrong. But I didn't think ours did,
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You're joking right? This is the english language. If something is used in the wrong way for long enough, it becomes correct. Did you know that "virtual" originally meant "real" but after so many people using it as "almost real" they changed it's dictionary meaning? Welcome to the english language!
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You're joking right? This is the english language. If something is used in the wrong way for long enough, it becomes correct. Did you know that "virtual" originally meant "real" but after so many people using it as "almost real" they changed it's dictionary meaning? Welcome to the english language!
No matter how many times you use "it's" (the contraction for it is or it has) instead of "its" (a possessive pronoun), it will never be correct.
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