Short air intake question - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

rabinny · 08-10-2005, 12:56 PM

Hey guys, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to get this air intake for my corolla. Is this a piece of crap and will it be a waste of money? Should I just go for a better brand?

Thanks in advance everyone!

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EMEX · 08-10-2005, 01:06 PM

I wouldn't recomended it. I bought one of those for my car, but later I have upgraded my filter to K&N. Siinse your car is a little older I would recomend buying something that will last longer, plus it will be better for your engine. The filters on these generic brands are no good (they will last couple of months to a year). Look either for K&N intake systems or AEM intakes, they cost more but more effective and better for the engine.

rabinny · 08-10-2005, 01:47 PM

Thanks for the head up dude!

Pineapple · 08-10-2005, 02:15 PM

Short Ram take in too much hot air. Go for Cold Air or a K&N drop in to replace stock filter.

wiccanferret · 08-10-2005, 03:44 PM

An intake is the path your car uses to suck in the air. Therefore, the only BAD intake would be one that didn't let the car get as much air as it could possibly use. Like your stock intake box. ANY cone filter is going to let more air flow then your little 4-cyl, naturally aspirated, could ever use. Therefore that intake is not any better or worse than any other intake that sucks air from the same place.

The difference in performance between a short ram and a cold air intake is negligible, except under very certain circumstances. To my knowledge, the corolla is not one of those situations where there is dyno proof that it makes more than 1hp difference, which is basically nothing.

All that being said, the quality of the tubing, the mounting area and equipment, and the placing and design of the sensor attachments and holes are sometimes a pain in the ass with a cheap intake. Also, the higher dollar intakes typically come with a re-usable washable filter...K&N or something similar.

The filter alone usually costs around $60, which will pay for itself after around 90k miles of normal use. That plus your ebay intake is right around $100, unless you just want to spend the $33 and pay for really expensive filters forever. A high end SRI (AEM, Injun, whatever...) usually costs around $150. I don't know the exact prices on Toyotas, though.

Them's are the facts. Not trying to sway you one way or the other...just letting you know.

adsaba1969 · 08-10-2005, 05:39 PM

DO NOT buy that POS. Spend the extra cash and get a decent one as stated above. When you feel you have the right one...but it. The increase in HP is minimal but you'll feel a little and let me tell you...the sound on my weapon-r secret($200 w/ shipping) is incredible)...oh yeah, + $16 for the filter cleaner

***MR2Jedi*** · 08-10-2005, 05:43 PM

not for $25.00 shipping. but the pipe and adapter would be worth $7.00 and you could upgrade it with a K&N filter..

metalo69 · 08-17-2005, 03:22 AM

Actually I bought one similar to that for my Camry. Sounded great and worked great. Only trouble I ever had with it was that I had to make my only mounting brakets. The rubber was a little cheap and after about a year it had to be replaced and I did replace the filter about 5 or 6 months after the initial install. However I did only pay a total of $30 for it.

Eh, live and learn right. Just don't sweat the small stuff.

Flashmn · 08-17-2005, 06:29 AM

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When you feel you have the right one...but it. The increase in HP is minimal but you'll feel a little and let me tell you..

Thats called placebo.
As for the el cheapo filters breaking, I've had el cheapo filters for several years without problems of breakage.

Wiccanferret has it dead on, but hey stupid people are easily fooled

rabinny · 08-17-2005, 10:38 AM

Thanks alot everybody! I'll probably just save my bucks and get myself a K&N intake.

Flashmn · 08-17-2005, 11:38 AM

I'd just get some pipe from home depot etc and make my own.

metalo69 · 11-11-2005, 06:48 AM

Cool, as long as you have money to throw away on a K&N feel like sending some My way

canadianae92 · 11-11-2005, 10:22 AM

Short ram intakes are taking in a lot of hot air from the engine bay, regardless you will have a power increase at top end and increased response maybe not much but I'd have to say go for a cold air intake, it leads a lot of colder air for a great increase in performance although you would notice it more with lots of mods like on a little corolla it might give you like 5 hp but on a v8 it would give like 50 hp, and the only reason short ram is good is because its just a shorter path for the air into the engine more air although hot air.
I've never had any intakes so i cant be for sure most of this stuff is just stuff ive read and common sense....

Flashmn · 11-11-2005, 10:52 AM

It wont give you 5hp and it wont give 50hp on a v8.

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reason short ram is good is because its just a shorter path for the air into the engine more air although hot air.

Distance doesnt matter at all. air is in the intake tract all the time, there is no vacuum before the throttle body. Kinda like I could have a million kilometer long pipe on my turbo setup and as long as theres pressure in the tube, the length of the pipe isnt an issue if the TB is after it. However if my TB was before the turbo million km away from it, lag would be noticeable....

Reason for flawed logic is because theres lots of misinformation and misbeliefs still circulate amongst the general tuner-public.

canadianae92 · 11-12-2005, 03:37 PM

What evil corolla s posted is pretty much what i read when i was reading up about intakes....