300HP without even modding the engine on a AE86!?! - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

Voodoo.Priest · 10-03-2002, 12:12 AM

Some Gguy I know with a 1000+ HP mustang claims that he can make my AE86 get 300 HP with just doing the air flow. I just don't see how the hell he can add 180 HP with a cold air intake, custom headers (probably atlantic), removing the catalaic converter, straight pipe, and some other stuff.

Is this possible? Even if it is there is no way in hell it would be street leage after that. And even after the few years left for it to become a classic allowing to to mod the **** out of it without caring about restrictions I could not affor the prices he wanted any way.

Lafora · 10-03-2002, 12:19 AM

you're joking right?

i assume you know enough to think it's a joke

unless the guy's got some turbo jet fan on his exhaust..ie a ROLLS ROYCE or a Pratts and Whitney fan, then no..it's NOT possible.

SpectraBlueCam · 10-03-2002, 12:23 AM

I guess "doing the air flow" is broad and vague enough to encompass some mad forced induction.

Voodoo.Priest · 10-03-2002, 12:28 AM

Ya I figured as much. But then aggin he does have a 80's mustang that has over 1000 HP. I'm not sure what kind of parts he wanted to use. For all I know he might have tried hooking up the Atlantic's exahust sytem. This guy was talking as if there was no money limit to do this.

Honestly I don't belive him. But like I said he has a 1000 HP stang thats N/A. But I just can't see how he can more than double my HP by just doing air in take/out take.

Lafora · 10-03-2002, 12:39 AM

i don't even know if it's possible to get 300 hp N/A on our engines.

toymaniac · 10-03-2002, 12:42 AM

B.S.

does he have a good dyno sheet for this mustang....?

1000hp n/a give me a break even the most powerful na V8 cant produce that amount....
not even a 426 hemi or 440 six pack stock they have400 to 500hp 550lbs /feet of torque even with good air flwo and cams you'll get about 550 max .... increase compresion...570.....not posible...IMO...
just my to cents....

mr_sinister · 10-03-2002, 08:52 AM

exactly what toymaniac said.. 1000hp on an n.a mustang.. whatever.. i used to read hot rod mags all the time when i was in highschool, the 1000hp v8's they had were all supercharged and/or running nitrous oxide systems

check out this engine:

http://www.pfaffengines.com/engbln3.htm

this is a professionally built 598ci chevy v8, supercharged, and it makes 1000hp..

598ci is almost twice the displacement of a 5.0L mustang engine (if that's what he has) and its supercharged! and if i remember correctly, paul pfaff is quite a famous engine builder..

he does have a 800 hp naturally aspirated v8 package there.. but again, its 598ci.. almost 10L of displacement!

Deep · 10-03-2002, 10:13 AM

I've seen a 1300HP street legal 'Vette (dickson saw it too) it was running a 400 shot of NOS but off the bottle and retuned it puts down 1000. Of course that motor is bored and stroked but its likely somewhere near 472ci.

toyotaspeed90 · 10-04-2002, 01:18 PM

i'm back.... been gone for a while.... lost the thread name when i re-did my computer a looooong time ago.... well i stumbled across it again and i'm back....

well, to tell you the truth unless you're running some crazy forced induction (which i guess could fall under "airflow") you're not gonna reach 300HP.... it's just not feasible....

but, with bigger engines, it's harder to tell what people are running for HP.... my best friends brother has a 1970 Ventura 2 with a 404 in it..... he's running somewhere between 700-750 n/a.... he's actually able to lift the front end off the ground (and since he runs open headers, when the cops hear him he has to run.... and he does.... and they don't catch him....) but actually he's gonna get a different engine, i think a little bigger, and then possibly run a 200 shot of NOS...... anywho....

4DoorsofFury · 10-04-2002, 03:26 PM

the nascar engines have 4.6 or so litre engines putting out 800 horses without fuel additives or forced induction. and might i add...that with restrictions put on them! i know its not the same as an AE86 but some tuners and mechanics really know theyre shit and secrets.

Rolla GT-S · 11-25-2002, 11:41 PM

i think your friend ment about air flow was super charging it, or turbo, and not bolt on's, because you can't get that much power from bolt on's but you can have twin super chargers.