I just got this thing home today. It needs paint but it has the original chip free windshield.
It needs seat upholstry pretty badly, but the headliner and panels are perfect.
I am not sure what happened on the hood, but it is fixable, caus eI am going to repaint in about a week.
Th car is rust free, very suprising here on the rusty coast.
It looks like fun though.
I haven't spent enough time looking through the corolla forum here and I am working so any help in the next few hours would be appreciated!
the big killer of those cars is the driveshaft, the centre bearings are all pretty much toast when they get to this age, Toyota will no longer sell the centre bearing as a separate part, only as an assembly with the driveshaft for $700
I liked my old '80 so much I paid the price for a new replacement.
You'll notice a vibration while accelerating or any time the car is under load, it can be especially noticeable during starts into corners, ie. turning right from a stop sign.
the big killer of those cars is the driveshaft, the centre bearings are all pretty much toast when they get to this age, Toyota will no longer sell the centre bearing as a separate part, only as an assembly with the driveshaft for $700
I liked my old '80 so much I paid the price for a new replacement.
You'll notice a vibration while accelerating or any time the car is under load, it can be especially noticeable during starts into corners, ie. turning right from a stop sign.
Neil
Where do you get your information because I know you can still buy the carrier bearing for older Toyota driveshafts. I had to buy a new one for my old 81 celica when my driveshaft came off and the 81 carrier bearing is the same as the 80 corolla.
Where do you get your information because I know you can still buy the carrier bearing for older Toyota driveshafts. I had to buy a new one for my old 81 celica when my driveshaft came off and the 81 carrier bearing is the same as the 80 corolla.
Maybe in the states you can, maybe it's just that particular model. I had to buy one when I lived in Calgary, I tired every dealer in the city and they all came up with the same story. They'd pull up the part number for the carrier, and do an inquiry and find out that the part number had been replaced with a new part number, the new part number was for the entire driveshaft assembly, so instead of a $200 CDN or whatever it was at the time, the price was around $620 +labour.
It's definitely enough of an expense that it may be worth his while to look into before he takes the plunge, that's all.
Maybe in the states you can, maybe it's just that particular model. I had to buy one when I lived in Calgary, I tired every dealer in the city and they all came up with the same story. They'd pull up the part number for the carrier, and do an inquiry and find out that the part number had been replaced with a new part number, the new part number was for the entire driveshaft assembly, so instead of a $200 CDN or whatever it was at the time, the price was around $620 +labour.
It's definitely enough of an expense that it may be worth his while to look into before he takes the plunge, that's all.
Neil
It's like I Said before the one for the 81 celica is the same one as the 80 corolla. Hell the AE86 has the same one and if you can get the parts here in the US then you can get the parts in Canada. Hell sometimes when my dad looks up what wharehouse the part he needs is in it is sometimes in canada and speaking of looking into things before hand maybe next time you need to look into other prices of parts because the last I looked a whole driveshaft from Toyota for those is around 350 US and I know even in CDN it would make it 620. NExt time how about you try looking into a junkyard or maybe aftermarket.
It's like I Said before the one for the 81 celica is the same one as the 80 corolla. Hell the AE86 has the same one and if you can get the parts here in the US then you can get the parts in Canada. Hell sometimes when my dad looks up what wharehouse the part he needs is in it is sometimes in canada and speaking of looking into things before hand maybe next time you need to look into other prices of parts because the last I looked a whole driveshaft from Toyota for those is around 350 US and I know even in CDN it would make it 620. NExt time how about you try looking into a junkyard or maybe aftermarket.
Don't tell me how to look into things, I'm as thirfty as they get, trust me ..the first place I go is the wrecking yard, hoping that someone had replaced the same assembly shortly before the car arrived in the yard, their was plenty of those cars at the time at the yard, but they were all in similar condition, I did alot of driving, about 40k per year so I decided it wasn't worth taking a chance on another used part.
If I didn't know what I was doing when it comes to 'looking into things' how do you think I built a near mint turbo ae86 on a shoestring budget.
No Canada does not get the same parts, even if some are shared, I assure you. You will get parts from Canadian warehouses, and I've also gotten parts from U.S. warehouses, but many parts you guys can get, we cannot, I don't understand the logistics and never will. I've been fixing/restoring cars both as a job and a hobby for over 20 years, if their was another way to come up with the best possible solution I assure you I would have found it. By installing the driveshaft I also got new universals etc. so it seemed like the way to go at the time.
BTW... they swore that their was no cross reference bearing for my car, I had the wagon, so that could have had something to do with it, even tho I'm pretty sure the wheelbase is pretty much the same. Wagon has different rear suspension.
So.... parts availability might be a problem then.
Are the parts from an 84 ae86 interchangeable?
Some of them will and some wont. The rear end is the same so you can get an LSD from an 84-85 AE86 GTS(not the 86-87 because it used different axles). To get the LSD to work you have to shave down your axles 1/4" but that is it. Also since the rear ends are the same that means there are a lot of ring and pinions available to put in the car. I beleive the suspension parts are basically the same. I believe the rear is excatly the same but the front there might be a little difference but I think a few of the parts you can use.
no you cannot use the rearend, it is not the same, unless you swap the whole thing disk to disk and even then their are slight differences. The axles are completely different. The SR5 ae86 rearend is interchangeable, but why bother...it's the same thing except for maybe the gear ratio. The old TEs had a similar drum rear to the SR5, not the GTS. The R&P is a different diameter, the axles are a different diameter, zenki and kouki has nothing to do with it. Just one look at the 3rb member and it's obvious it's smaller, you can't even swap in the GTS innards. I used to think you could use just the inner LSD unit, but after handling the SR5 unit, it' definitely small.
If you want a GTS rear, swap the whole thing, including the disk brakes, bias valve, emergency cables, etc. doesn't matter if it's kouki or zenki since externally they are identical. Not sure if you'll need a custom driveshaft since the pinion housing might be longer on the GTS rearend since it's slightly bigger R&P.
You can use the GTS OEM suspension parts, struts etc. If you want to keep your stock suspension arms/mounts you can use AE86 springs by swapping the upper perch.
That said, any parts for even a 20yr old ae86 or a 25 year old TE are harder to come by than newer models. Fortuately your on the west coast so reasonably solid cars can be found in the bone yard, new stuff can always be a challenge compared to a newer car. I found with my old TEs the hydraulics were the first things to go, ie. clutch and brake cylinders, hopefully you luck out and find one with alot of that stuff already replaced.
no you cannot use the rearend, it is not the same, unless you swap the whole thing disk to disk and even then their are slight differences. The axles are completely different. The SR5 ae86 rearend is interchangeable, but why bother...it's the same thing except for maybe the gear ratio. The old TEs had a similar drum rear to the SR5, not the GTS. The R&P is a different diameter, the axles are a different diameter, zenki and kouki has nothing to do with it. Just one look at the 3rb member and it's obvious it's smaller, you can't even swap in the GTS innards. I used to think you could use just the inner LSD unit, but after handling the SR5 unit, it' definitely small.
If you want a GTS rear, swap the whole thing, including the disk brakes, bias valve, emergency cables, etc. doesn't matter if it's kouki or zenki since externally they are identical. Not sure if you'll need a custom driveshaft since the pinion housing might be longer on the GTS rearend since it's slightly bigger R&P.
You can use the GTS OEM suspension parts, struts etc. If you want to keep your stock suspension arms/mounts you can use AE86 springs by swapping the upper perch.
That said, any parts for even a 20yr old ae86 or a 25 year old TE are harder to come by than newer models. Fortuately your on the west coast so reasonably solid cars can be found in the bone yard, new stuff can always be a challenge compared to a newer car. I found with my old TEs the hydraulics were the first things to go, ie. clutch and brake cylinders, hopefully you luck out and find one with alot of that stuff already replaced.
Neil
Hmm from everything I have read the TE's had a 6.7" rear end which was the same as the GTS AE86 and all of the RWD celicas. Hell I just swapped my old 81 celica rear end into my AE86 SR5. As for the zenki and Kouki there is a difference. Yes the housing was the same and the ring and pinions are the same. However the LSD from the Kouki used a different spline axle as the zenkis. The zenkis used the same spline number as any 6.7" rear end. However if you go from the open to the LSD from a zenki you have to shave axles 1/4" so that the bearings will be in the correct spot. I know that for a fact because I put a zenki LSD into my celica rear end and had to shave the axles down and I made the mistake of thinking like you and bought a kouki lsd and found out the kouki wouldn't work and ended up having to get the correct lsd which is a zenki. To me it sounds like you are just arguing to argue now which I Will stop if you keep trying to argue with me because I know my facts and actually performed this stuff so I know what I am talking about.
turn to A-23 (Rear axle suspension specifications) in the Toyota FSM (ae86) and you will see that an SR5 has a 6.38" rear end, not a 6.7" rear end.
turn to A-17 (Rear axle and suspension specifiations) in the Toyota FSM (I have the '83 manual for RWD, I had an '80 and '83 they had the same setup) and you will see that the TE also had the 6.38" rear, like the AE86 SR5.
Both manuals on my lap.
some '80-82 did come with the bigger rear, doesn't mean this one has it tho, can't make that assumption. Yes if you are fortunate enough to have one of those cars a zenki diff will work.
As far as will it work, here's a discussion on the topic;
kouki and zenki have different axles, that's common knowledge, that has no bearing tho on the discussion which was my point. Cause if you swap a full rearend brake to brake it doesn't matter which way he goes. Kouki is stronger tho in the long run.
You are confrontational, so you asked for it, if you don't want to argue then don't dispute other info., why would I lie about the price I paid for my parts, I try to help someone out and you step in and try to make me look like I don't know what I'm talking about and make it seem like my info. is misleading, I have no reason to lie to him. I am well known in the community and take pride in my knowledge and like to help others, call it an argument if you wish, I just want to make sure a forum member isn't mislead by false info.
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..the first place I go is the wrecking yard, hoping that someone had replaced the same assembly shortly before the car arrived in the yard, their was plenty of those cars at the time at the yard, but they were all in similar condition, I did alot of driving, about 40k per year so I decided it wasn't worth taking a chance on another used part. 
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