building my engine ideas

[Wiseco]

Alright, here's the deal. I live in Ontario, Canada. Emissions, cops and insurance are pretty hard on us, making the turbo route a bit hard to follow.

Second thing is, I want to build something different, for once. I would like to stay N/A. I don't care if I'm not pushing 300 whp, I just want something peppy enough, that I made myself.

I am fairly new to Toyota, coming from the world of Hondas.

Before I start, I have a 91 Celica GT with the 5SFE.

From the information I have gathered, the 5SFE is pretty much a 3SGE with more stroke, fuel efficent head, bla bla bla.

What I was thinking of doing, was building a 2.1, with the crank out of a 3SGE, this way I have less stroke, higher revving. That would also involve higher compression pistons because of the loss of stroke.

I would also slap on a 3SGE head, with intake, computer and the whole shabang. And most likely run a fuel management system of some kind.

I am aware that I might have to drill the cooland passages, that's no big deal.

I need more information on wich parts I need to use. I think I will need a 3SGE out of a 4th gen celica GTS. What about the piston rods? and is there any high compression pistons available for that 5SFE?

Unless you guys have any other ideas?

[Pineapple]

First 3S-GE crank won't fit on the 5S-FE block. Also you won't get 2.1, you'll get 2.0. Same bore, same stroke, same volume.
Head over to Carmy fourm and read the stickies. Also do a search on 5S-GE, 5S-GTE.

[alltracman78]

What?!!!
The 3SGTE/5SFE cranks have the exact same main journal size. Which means so does the 3SGE.
And the 5SFE has a larger bore than the 3S [87mm vs 86mm]

Why don't you just build a 3SGE? That is basically what you would have from the above....
With a much heavier piston [if your going to shorten the stroke and raise the c:r that much]

[Pineapple]

^Didn't we need to grind the crank to fit? That's why most will just use the 5S block to build a 5S-GTE. I might be wrong too.

[4DMR2t]

I'd have to agree with alltracman. Just build a 3sge. If you're feeling really adventurous, import a beams 3sge. Plenty of NA power there.

[alltracman78]

Originally Posted by Pineapple

^Didn't we need to grind the crank to fit? That's why most will just use the 5S block to build a 5S-GTE. I might be wrong too.

You have to grind ROD journals, IF you're not going to use 5SFE size rods.
But the main is identical. You can stick it in a 3S to make a stroker....

[celfatic]

don't forget custom drilled oil lines to keep the 5sfe block lubricated.