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rice · 01-30-2006, 04:34 AM

wassup guys, tell me a lil about the all trac, were they all turbo?? how much did they weigh? more than the regular celicas? did they ALL came with the 3sgte? anything else?

alltracman78 · 01-30-2006, 08:40 AM

ST 165 88/89
ST185 90-93
ST205 94-99 [not sold in the US]

All were 5spd.
All came with the 3SGTE [turbo 2.0]
They are a bit heavier than even a GTS. In the neighborhood of 3300lbs.
200 hp [ST185]
190 hp [ST165]
Quick stock, but not blazingly fast. ~ 15.4 1/4

In the US they are VERY hard to find. Less than 2000 were sold between 1990 and 1993.
They were also sold as a 88/89 model. I BELIEVE ~ 2500 were sold here, but I could be wrong. Toyota originally sold the ST165 so they could race in rally. For the ST185, they had a homologation model [At that time, in order to race, a minimum 5000 cars had to be sold with certain specs the same as the race car] that we didn't get over here. We just got the reg ST185.
Reliable sports car if taken care of. Like any other performance car, if ignored, it can have problems. But I've had 2. The first one lasted 173xxx m, with no major problems other than the clutch. My second, which I still have, is at 160xxx, and is still running strong.
Here's an idea of some of the car.
http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13876

If you're looking for more info, you can also try www.alltrac.net

hooch-7 · 03-28-2006, 03:50 AM

this site may answer some more quetions for you

hooch-7 · 03-28-2006, 03:51 AM

http://www.awdgt4.com/

maxaud · 05-15-2006, 03:05 AM

mines for sell...
http://www.alltrac.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12917

A Diddy · 05-19-2006, 07:55 AM

those are USDM figures
JDM is 225 hp

ELCelica · 06-18-2006, 02:34 AM

yeah as said they used only the 3S-GTE 2.0L turbo
ST205 never made it to the U.S., and wasn't used for homologation after TTE was banned in 1995 from WRC, but production did continue
an ST185 weighed around 3200lbs, an ST184 GT 5spd weighed just under 2900, an ST184 GT-S slightly more, close to 3000 lbs.

alltracman78 · 06-18-2006, 06:40 PM

ST184 GT weighs well less than 2900. More like 2600....
A GTS weighs ~ 2900lbs.
I didn't mention the JDM hp figures as he's not going to buy a JDM GT4.... Power is all in the ecu anyways.

3SGTE@daSpeedof · 06-19-2006, 05:11 PM

I'll give you guys a weight on my celica w/ 3s & e153 after I clean it out

ELCelica · 06-30-2006, 05:15 AM

exact figures for 1993 (5M/4A)
GT LB: 2866/2921
GTS LB: 2943/2987
Alltrac: 3219
might've been lower in previous years, dunno.

alltracman78 · 06-30-2006, 10:01 PM

Weight will also depend on options.....

3SGTE@daSpeedof · 07-01-2006, 03:49 PM

exactly, my 92 gts has no ac, no abs, but it does have the system 10.

ELCelica · 07-06-2006, 04:41 AM

yeah those are the curb weights with no options. alltracs came fully loaded, the only options were ac, carpet floor mats, and front end mask. GT's don't have quite as many things standard, but that shows what options like the sunroof and ac do, as well as the AWD system

ST185 · 07-06-2006, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ELCelica

yeah those are the curb weights with no options. alltracs came fully loaded, the only options were ac, carpet floor mats, and front end mask. GT's don't have quite as many things standard, but that shows what options like the sunroof and ac do, as well as the AWD system

Nope.
Alltracs did not come fully load, except 93 model.
Some alltracs did not come with ABS nor sunroof.

ELCelica · 07-10-2006, 01:39 AM

Sorry, I'm looking at the 1993 brochure here
yeah earlier ones weren't always