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Old 02-17-2006, 06:56 PM   #31 (permalink)
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lol now your arguing for the sake of arguing...u understand my point and your being a smart ass...im out of this for now
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Old 02-18-2006, 06:14 AM   #32 (permalink)
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A Diddy it sounds like you think the only way to swap a 3s-gte into a car is to make it awd? If so you are very wrong, like Ishcoleobo was saying if you mate the 3s-gte with an e153 transmission (which is a 2wd transmission either fwd or rwd depending on whether or not it came from an MR2 or Camry) it will go into a 7th gen just fine, in fact its been done once or twice for way under 30k, I think the guy that I saw swap a 3s into his 7th gen only spent around 6-7k and he had some upgrades done to the engine.
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Old 02-18-2006, 12:14 PM   #33 (permalink)
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i know u can swap just the engine into the 7th gen and itll go for around 10. I just added the rest because there was a guy who had done it. There are tons of 3sgte swaps being done on 5th gens...but on a 7th gen my advice was just to turbo or sc it. It's more economical
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Old 02-18-2006, 12:30 PM   #34 (permalink)
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i know u can swap just the engine into the 7th gen and itll go for around 10. I just added the rest because there was a guy who had done it. There are tons of 3sgte swaps being done on 5th gens...but on a 7th gen my advice was just to turbo or sc it. It's more economical



You don't know any guy with an AWD 7th gen. And how in the hell are you coming up with this $10k figure? I'm interested to see where to math is adding up to $10k. $5k is more than enough to drop a 3sgte into a 7th gen.

Your advice was to turbo or supercharge it.... wonderful. You should have stopped right there because you have no idea what you are talking about beyond that point. Now a turbo 1zz or 2zz is more economical than a 3sgte? I would really like to see some hard evidence of this.

Buy the time you buy the turbo kit... and everything needed to make it run correctly... and have it installed I'm assuming if you are asking what to do to make your car faster....... you are way over the price of doing an engine swap. Not to mention to a superior motor with much more power potential. Torque steer for days..... booyah .
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Old 02-18-2006, 12:34 PM   #35 (permalink)
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i know u can swap just the engine into the 7th gen and itll go for around 10. I just added the rest because there was a guy who had done it. There are tons of 3sgte swaps being done on 5th gens...but on a 7th gen my advice was just to turbo or sc it. It's more economical



You don't know any guy with an AWD 7th gen. And how in the hell are you coming up with this $10k figure? I'm interested to see where to math is adding up to $10k. $5k is more than enough to drop a 3sgte into a 7th gen.

Your advice was to turbo or supercharge it.... wonderful. You should have stopped right there because you have no idea what you are talking about beyond that point. Now a turbo 1zz or 2zz is more economical than a 3sgte? I would really like to see some hard evidence of this.

Buy the time you buy the turbo kit... and everything needed to make it run correctly... and have it installed I'm assuming if you are asking what to do to make your car faster....... you are way over the price of doing an engine swap. Not to mention to a superior motor with much more power potential. Torque steer for days..... booyah .



Oh... and I have debunked more nonsense talk.

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h22 isnt a civic engine....a 3sgte is a celica engine (or an MR2 or that car we didnt get up here in canada) and he used a modified all trac chassis from what I understand. So yea this is a celica, the civic is using a K series rather than a B or D series engine so the engine isnt even a civics anymore.
When did I say it had a K series motor??? And don't Civics come with K series motors now anyways???

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lol now your arguing for the sake of arguing...u understand my point and your being a smart ass...im out of this for now
What else would I be arguing for the sake of?..... world peace? Of course I am arguing for the sake or arguing.... that is the point of an argument.
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Old 02-18-2006, 12:42 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I think hes just pulling stuff out his ass now, my throat hurts pretty bad and im tired of laughing at his posts.
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You don't know any guy with an AWD 7th gen. And how in the hell are you coming up with this $10k figure?
Quit being a nincompoop . I've seen it in the guys own handwriting that he spent just over 10 G's to get his 3SGTE although he doesn't have AWD to my knowledge, I go to that forum regularly.

Oh btw, I'm also lookin into the AWD thingy , just to let ya know.

And uh, I've been making my own little shopping list for the celica I'm gettin here hopefully in the fall, and uh, I've only to like eight G's so far in the performance section, and thats goin all the way through the engine and turbo.

ishcoleobo, if you'll try to be smarter we'll try to be nicer
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Old 02-23-2006, 09:15 PM   #38 (permalink)
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alright guys... end this now... because your going to piss off some moderators in here. Just leave it as... The swap is POSSIBLE and end it at that.
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Old 02-24-2006, 07:13 AM   #39 (permalink)
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ive owned 2 celicas and still own one...one 7th gen which isnow gone and one 5th gen. I'll find the 3sgte 7th gen link and edit this post.
Read this post: http://www.newcelica.org/forums/show...=7th+gen+3sgte

He says at one point that the swap and chassis cost him over 30 K...and to me he looks like he knows what he's doing. So much for that mythical celica huh?

20K into a celica would be lost compared to a supra? nah, sell the celi grab a supra and enjoy the ridiculous potential IMO. you see that...IMO.

Ok i was going to stay out of this but i have one question for you? are there any pics of the underside of this thing or just top pics?? because if only top pics whos to say whats been done. the car is owned by a shop which means that the owner of the shop could have put his hourly shop rate at $300 per hour while working on HIS car. fab. works takes time and knowhow but at 100 per hr thats 300 hrs holy shit did he build that thing from the ground up and just use celica sheet metal.. Just because the owner says he spent 30k on fab work doesn't mean squat.sorry

Its like me telling you that i built the motor in my car and used chevy 350 pistons and rods that i had laying around from a previous build. it took me boring it to .085 over but they fit and you only have my word on this because i have all the machines at work and then i could tell you i cut the crank down and reformed a clutch mounting plate on the back of the smallblock crank and again you have no way to know if i did short of taking my motor apart. I am just saying as a shop owner/operator i can do alot of things to make what he has appear bigger and better and more expensive.

I will also add this link that was an original post on here some weeks ago.
http://www.rodmillen.com/UCelica.htm

I am not trying to start stuff but this was a point that had to be made.
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Old 02-24-2006, 08:12 AM   #40 (permalink)
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wow i thought this thread was dead. Anyway ischsdkgnkns; whatever your name is... Turbo kit for a 7th gen goes anywhere between 3-5K. Assuming tuning is roughly 1 K if you can do it yourself. Now your at 6K installed and tuned max. Like Tuscon302 mentioned, it is 10 Gs to get the 3sgte into a 7th gen and thats USD. Have you done it? Have you spoken to anyone that has done it? Done it right? Obviously not. If anything you are pulling numbers out your ass and need to check yourself (Where is your 5K number from?). Your trying to bust into the thread acting all big and bad and correcting people. Now your making yourself look like a jerk. Join celispeed.com and read up on options for 7th gens, and what would be best.

About the civic, yes I fucked up and wrote K series instead of H series...but the point is the same.

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