2JZ-GTE in Celica 2000GT 79???!!!

[ghost_89918]

Is it possible to put a 2JZ-GTE in the Celica 2000GT 79?

[Pineapple]

Do you have $10000 to blow?

[weaponrcamry]

The celica 2000gt came with a 2.0 or a 2.3L straight 6 which was a good thing. But a big a$$ 3.0L twin turbo engine?? You would better off swapping a 1.5jz hybrid or a 1jz since its is 2.5 liters. Also money is a big factor. But as they say "no replacement for displacment"

[stepho]

As the other guys said, it would cost way too much.
The 2JZ-GTE would be wonderful in the '79 Supra.
But the Supra was designed for a 6 cylinder and had a longer front end than the 4 cylinder Celica.
If you put a 2JZ into a '79 Celica you would need to relocate the radiator to in front of the radiator support panel and mount an electric fan in front of the radiator.
Moving the radiator forward and having a long heavy engine forward of the front wheels would kill your handling.
It would be wonderful at drag racing but absolute crap driving on the streets.

The only proper way to do it would be to shift the firewall back at least 3" or more.
Naturally, you would also have to upgrade the gearbox, diff, suspension, fuel system, exhaust and electrics.

Here are some other ideas instead.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...pho/celfaq.txt
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...od.htm#cel40pr

Could you do me a small favour?
Cou;d you tell me the details on your build plate in the engine bay?
Then I can update my webpage to include Seychelles.
The build plate looks like one of these.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...o/newcodes.htm
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...o/oldcodes.htm

Weaponcamry,
The '79 2000GT in Seychelles came with a 1968cc 18R or 1972cc 21R (depending on country and I'm not sure which of these 2 engines Seychelles got).
In America it had the 2189cc 20R (the next year it had the 2366cc 22R).
The '79 Supra (not Celica) had a 2563cc 4M.
The front chassis of the Supra was quite different (and longer) than the Celica.

- Stepho

[weaponrcamry]

Yea a 2zj-gte swap is like swapping a rb26dett into a Datsun z. An awesome drag car but not on the street. They had no aerodynamics for the car to control it. But it all depends on your budget. .

[ghost_89918]

Thank you all for your help.
I think i best save my money for an AE86 which i badly want.
Do you thing its best staying with the 1600CC or a swap for th 20V silver top ??

[weaponrcamry]

dou plan on going drifting?? Lol. j/k. But if you save up for that swap in a 3sgte which is an engine that was in the 2nd gen mr2, or the celica all-trac. You can prolly run about 350hp-400hp on stock internals with good tune, and a good engine to start off with. But on the other hand the 4agze is an excellent engine. Are you overseas or so? I thought the 20v was avaiable for the overseas, and the United states got the 16v. I dont know where your from so. Either the 3sgte or the 4agze swap.

[ghost_89918]

I'm in Seychelles, it's in the Indian Ocean.We got the Trueno from Japan and the Levin from UK.
Do you know of a site that i could use as reference to the 3SGTE swap on a AE86??

Ohh and really sorry Stepho i dnt own the Celica 2000GT, i was thinking of buying the only one we have here.It's black and in mint condition.

[weaponrcamry]

Yea here is a site that will kind of guide you to the swap.

http://www.billzilla.org/AE86.htm

But a 3sge requires alot of work. But can be done. As the 4agze will be better cause its straight drop in. Also you can turbo, or supercharger the engine. But for power wise and money hmmm the 3sgte. For the looks and decent power the 4agze easier swap.

[ghost_89918]

I have decided to go for the 4agze as it will be easier to install and I mainly want the car for drifting. My main problem will be getting the car back to shape. The ones we have here are in pretty poor condition. What do you recommend I do with it? Reinforce the chassis??

[weaponrcamry]

yea, you'll prolly spend atleast 10k-15k. For the whole project. But how bad is it?

[Pineapple]

Maybe cheaper to import a better chassis first.

[stepho]

Suggest you find a 1979-1981 MA45 or MA46 Supra (looks like the 1979 Celica with a longer nose) or the 1981-1985 wedge shaped MA61.

Then you can easily replace the 5M with a 7M-GE (3000cc, twincam, EFI) with practically no other changes (same gearbox, diff, crossmembers, etc).
With upgraded fuel, exhaust and driveline you could put in the turbo 7M-GTE.
Or go the whole way with a 2JZ-GTE (starts getting more expensive but still relatively simple).
Even the 1UZ-FE Lexus V8 has been done on the MA61 (lots of custom bits required).

The 6 cylinder conversion are easy on the Supra and not too expensive if you do lots of work yourself.

- Stepho

[ghost_89918]

Well there are 2 Truenos.1 is in decent condition and the other ones body is in rust and has holes the size of my fist.
The problem in my country is that we are not allowed to import used vehicles. As a result of this car prices stay high, even if it is 10 years old. Toyota cars has the highest resell value amogst the lot.Just to give you an idea of how high it really is, the price of a 1992 AE100 is around $20000!!
So I’m guessing the descent condition Trueno will probably cost around RS 50000($10000) and the poor condition Trueno will probably go for RS 25000 ($5000).
I would prefer to go for the poor condition one because I will be able to obtain the parts the body parts easly .But what I need to know is what exactly am I going to have to change on the car apart from the chassis and the body parts.

Stepho, thank you for your suggestion but the only Supra we have here are the 92 and 98 versions.

Thank you to all who’s helping me on this project….

[stepho]

Do you have the 1979-1983 Corolla TE72 (also knownas the T-18 in Australia).
That is the square shaped one before the AE86.
Eveyrbody tries to make InitialD AE86 clones, so something a bit more unsual could be good.

You can put a 1800cc twincam turbo 3T-GTE (160HP) into the TE72 with no trouble,

Or get a crossmember from an AE70, bolt it into the TE72 and bolt a 20 valve 4A-GE or supercharged 4A-GZE onto that.
Beware that in east-west 4A engines the distributor will hit the firewall when installed as north-south, so get the same engines that fit the AE86 or do firewall surgery.

The turbo 3T-GTE can also fit other Toyotas that had the 2T or 3T engines.
Eg. TE21/27/35/37/47 Corolla, TA22/23/28/40/63 Celica.

- Stepho