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Old 07-26-2007, 09:42 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Be sure to do the BlueBomber mod to prevent bogging:

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=127862
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I thought the BB mod was just to stop the CEL? I wouldn't want to cut up my beautiful Injen CAI not even so I don't hydrolock.
Ha, it rained really hard the other day and I was so paranoid because of what I've heard about hydrolocking, but it was really no big deal. I have a hydrashield on my filter so I wasn't too worried. Just don't go into any big puddles w/ the CAI!!
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Old 07-28-2007, 12:13 AM   #34 (permalink)
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"If your car is having bogging and hesitation problems and you have an aftermarket intake (cold air or short ram), this is the answer you've been looking for!

Reason For Bogging/Hesitation
Aftermarket intakes use larger piping (usually 2.75" vs stock 2.5"). This is supposed to allow more airflow, but unfortunately, our mass airflow sensor (MAFS) is tuned to read air through a 2.5" pipe. Increasing the size of the pipe actually slows down the air speed, since our engines can only take in so much air. The lower air speed makes the MAFS think less air is coming into the engine. This results in the engine getting less gas than needed, making it run lean. This will cause the engine to bog at low RPMs, hesitate during normal driving RPMs, and reduce overall engine power output. It can even lead to check engine lights (CELs), with the code of P0171.

Reason Why This Modification Works
This modification replaces the aftermarket intake's MAFS mount with the stock mount. The piping inside the stock mount is 2.5", so it allows the MAFS to read the incoming air correctly and provide the engine with the proper amount of fuel. It combines the best characteristics of the stock airbox (proper airflow speed) and the aftermarket intake (low restriction airflow) to provide maximum power gain.

Will My Intake Work With This Modification?
Yes. This modification has been tested sucessfully on the AEM Gen 1 CAI/eBay CAI, the Injen short ram, and the RMM short ram. It will also work with the Injen CAI/APC Intimidator CAI, K&N CAI and short ram, and PHR CAI. As long as the intake's pipe has a constant diameter, this mod will work. The exception may be the Iceman intake, since its diameter continually changes over the length of the intake."
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Nice info. That cleared up a lot. But, I still wouldn't cut up my CAI. Just get a PFC and that should clear everything up, after some tuning of course.
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Yeah I would never cut my intake or do anything like that, even so, I dont know anyone who has had problems with CAI's or short rams who have bought the latest products. all these brands have done many changes to clear issues such as these.

At that, I know many celica owners who had injen and aem for 4-5 years, and never had problems once. I guess its how you install, and every car is different, just like every car will put out different dyno #'s.
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