I have a 91 gts with auto. I am looking for a mild performance upgrade but am mainly concerned with fuel mileage and longetivity. It has a 5sfe now. I don't really want to keep the auto. Would it be better and cheaper to just buy a 5spd car and swap in an engine. My gts has 219k on it and still runs great, uses little oil, but has hardly any power. I was just wondering what engines would fit into the compartment and hook up to the transmission with little modification to the compartment. I am not big on turbos, especially for oklahoma's heat and longetivity. Sorry for the novel, thanks for any help. Electrons aren't a problem and neither is know how to swap engines.
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91 Toyota Celica GT-S
98 Chevrolet Camaro Z-28
If you are gonna swap do the 3s-gte. yes its turbo, but it is nice. should be little modification. As far as the auto to manual swap... it shouldn't be to hard either. Hit up a junk yard and you'll find everything you need. I have seen done on several cars and helped out with it on a supra and a prelude. Not bad just takes a while.
the 3SGTE is NOT always turbo, you can buy the non-turbo version, but the 4sfe, 3sfe, 4age, and 1mzf ealso would swap in nice....... go to toyota celicas . com without all the spaces lol, they have a bunch of advice on swaps and links to stories about the swap
3sgte engine is always turbo. 3sge is nonturbo. Now, you can buy a 3sgte without the turbo setup, but you're not gonna get it to run well without the turbo setup. I believe thats where you might have gotten a little confused.
3sgte engine is always turbo. 3sge is nonturbo. Now, you can buy a 3sgte without the turbo setup, but you're not gonna get it to run well without the turbo setup. I believe thats where you might have gotten a little confused.
Did you go to those links?? Obviously not, dude, its not legal for a motor company to sell you a non-running engine at the price, and the BBB would shut that shit down ASAP! if it wasnt a running motor for 1750
A 3SGTE is ALWAYS TURBO! Why? Because it has a T in the engine code. The 3SGE is the non-turbo motor.
Both of those links you posted are 3SGTEs and both of those motors are TURBO motors. I think you think theres a difference because they don't actually list TURBO on what comes with it. But if you look at the power, the 2nd one (which is a 3rd Gen 3sgte) has more.
3SGT(urbo)E will ALWAYS have a turbo.
Hey look you learned.
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Last edited by Supersprynt; 12-28-2007 at 04:42 PM.
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you must list EVERY part the kit comes with, no matter how obvious, the BBB will be on you and question you.....trust me, ive had my own and it dealt with a lot of money, and was involved with several colleges in my area, and they always asked questions......it aggrivated me.....but i quit the biz, and now i chill and work on cars, you wouldnt make it one day with a biz cuz you dont know what to do, and this proves it. They MUST list EVERY part that it comes with, especially for 1750...
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Originally Posted by Supersprynt
A 3SGTE is ALWAYS TURBO! Why? Because it has a T in the engine code. The 3SGE is the non-turbo motor.
Both of those links you posted are 3SGTEs and both of those motors are TURBO motors. I think you think theres a difference because they don't actually list TURBO on what comes with it. But if you look at the power, the 2nd one (which is a 3rd Gen 3sgte) has more.
Did you go to those links?? Obviously not, dude, its not legal for a motor company to sell you a non-running engine at the price, and the BBB would shut that shit down ASAP! if it wasnt a running motor for 1750
Well, heres the obvious part. You're probably the only person on this forum that thinks you're right by the way. The "T" (like its been said so many times) means "TURBO" in 3sgte.
Now, Toyota does build a 3sge engine. Notice there is no "T" in that engine code. Yes, a 3sge engine does exist. I've read your post in another thread where you stated yourself that a 3sge engine doesn't exist. It does exist. Thats where you should probably start doing more research.
Now, I'll tell you this again cause it seems like you didn't understand it the first time around. You can buy a 3sgte engine without the turbo set up. The only problem with that is. That engine probably won't run well without the turbo set up because it was built and designed for a turbo setup. That doesn't mean it won't run. It would be a really good idea to buy a new turbo kit or buy the engine with the existing turbo kit.
Also, you're right. I didn't look at those web links. Heres the thing though. It was too obvious that you haven't done your homework. I don't need to go to a web link you posted when I already know what a 3sgte engine is.
so then a 2nd gen 3sfe will fit. what vehicles did that engine come in factory. Does the transmission mate up to the stock one in my celica or does the 3sfe need its own.
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91 Toyota Celica GT-S
98 Chevrolet Camaro Z-28
so then a 2nd gen 3sfe will fit. what vehicles did that engine come in factory. Does the transmission mate up to the stock one in my celica or does the 3sfe need its own.
If you want an upgrade from you 5sfe then you won't want a 3sfe. You'll want a 3sge if you want to stay nonturbo. A 2nd gen 3sge is what everyone else over seas got in their 5th gen Celica instead of the 5sfe. If you want the cheapest upgrade, you can go to a junkyard and try to find yourself a 1st gen 3sge. Just a heads up though. You'll lose the low end torque the 5sfe provides.
NEVER OWN YOUR OWN BUSINESS!
you must list EVERY part the kit comes with, no matter how obvious, the BBB will be on you and question you.....trust me, ive had my own and it dealt with a lot of money, and was involved with several colleges in my area, and they always asked questions......it aggrivated me.....but i quit the biz, and now i chill and work on cars, you wouldnt make it one day with a biz cuz you dont know what to do, and this proves it. They MUST list EVERY part that it comes with, especially for 1750...
What the fuck are you talking about? I'm not talking about business. Nobody here is talking about business. I'm talking about a fucking motor, and what engine codes mean. I don't give a shit what the Better Business Bureau wants, or asks for. I'm telling you what the 3SGTE is, and what the engine code represents.
If you are trying to be impressive because you've dealt with "a lot of money" save it. Spitting some bullshit about how I won't make it because I am telling you your wrong, and some business didn't list the turbo, is the most ignorant shit I've ever read. As if every business needs to list a bunch of parts. News flash, theres a lot of other businesses.
You obviously don't know anything about Toyota motors. And now you are telling me not to own a business, as if I'm the one who listed the parts, and like you know the slightest thing about me.
I'm talking about a Toyota motor, that's it. Go try to be impressive with your local area colleges somewhere else, and stop answering peoples questions with bad information.
Seriously you need to sit yourself in a corner, and go nuts with a coloring book.
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