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Old 02-19-2008, 09:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1Gen owners????

I just got a 82 celica given to me and Im thinkin about turning it into a drift car. Any other first gen owners on here or am I the only one?
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Sorry, but you have a gen3 celica. 1970-1977 = gen1, 1978-1981 = gen2, 1982-1985 = gen3...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celica
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ehh im new to toyotas. Its an old car so i figured it was 1gen lol
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Old 02-19-2008, 10:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It's cool. I actually have '73, and an '87. Check this site out for some power upgrades...

http://www.lcengineering.com/
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Thanks for the link man. Ive been wondering if it was gonna be hard to find performance upgrades. the 22r is decent stock but It can be faster lol
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Yeah, check out their turbo kits. That should give your 22R some juice.
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Thats what i was thinking about doing is going turbo. How hard would it be to convert it to Fuel injected? Im not abig fan of carbs
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It wouldn't be worth it to convert your current engine. It would cost just a bit more to swap in a complete FI engine. If you convert, you'll need the intake manifold, injectors, fuel rail, cylinder head, fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator, FI computer, TPS, throttle body, and alot of other little parts, and sensors that I can't think of right now.
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I'm a first gen owner (1977).
The 22R is easy to make go harder but it depends on how serious you are and how much you want to spend.

If you want mild then try raising compression with a 20R head, then add a set of cams, Weber 32/26 carb upgrade (or EFI) and a high flow 2.5" exhaust.

If you want truly wild then start with a turbo 22R-TE block from a Tacoma, change the cam, change the turbo, add an aftermarket computer, bigger injectors and bigger exhaust.
Unfortunately the turbo path is expensive and the 2 options are so different in the details (different cams, different pistons, different exhaust, etc) that you can't gradually progress from one to the other.

Luckily they are interchangeable, so you could start with an NA engine and drive that for a while, upgrading it as time and money allow. In the mean time, you could slowly build a turbo 22R-TE as time and money allow. When it is ready, sell the NA and drop in the turbo engine.

Here's a little more on the history side of 1/2/3 gen Celicas.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~stepho/history.htm
http://members.iinet.net.au/~stepho/celprod.htm
http://members.iinet.net.au/~stepho/eng20R.htm

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It wouldn't be worth it to convert your current engine. It would cost just a bit more to swap in a complete FI engine. If you convert, you'll need the intake manifold, injectors, fuel rail, cylinder head, fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator, FI computer, TPS, throttle body, and alot of other little parts, and sensors that I can't think of right now.
Yea thats true. Hmmm Well I think ill just go turbo then :-)
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To run a 22r/re reliably turbocharged gets pretty expensive. Of course, it all depends on how much power you're actually aiming for. You have a carbed 22r. I'd say you're better off just keeping it naturally aspirated. There are a lot more options for mods with the 22r than there is for the 22re. Do some research. If you figured just because your car is old it must be a 1st gen. Then its pretty clear you have a lot to learn before you can make a decision like engine swaps, turbocharging and fuel injection conversions.
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Im certianly not new to cars. I most just work on Acura/Hondas tho. This is the first toyota I have ever had and I figured it was the first year that they made them
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Here's a turbo 22R-TE to start with.
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/pts/579870044.html

Beware that the 22R-TE doesn't make a huge amount of power in stock form (more of a high torque engine).
But it's freshly reconditioned and he throws in a Garret turbo, so it's a good basis to make something really good with.

You would still need to upgrade the fuel system (high pressure fuel pump, bigger lines) and the exhaust but otherwise it is a drop in replacement.
Naturally, if you make really serious HP then you need to upgrade the gearbox and diff.

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This site is a 3gen. www.celica-gts.com You can get alot of info here to help you out.
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Here's a few more engine options to think about.
It was originally meant for first gen Celicas but the engine stuff applies equally well to third gen Celicas.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~stepho/celfaq.txt

And some 22R options.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~stepho/eng20r.htm

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